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Rodney 🚧🚇 (@chanface.bsky.social)

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It is an inference from the DoFo letter, which talks about the freight rail bypass "missing link" along with the wording of "potential to unlock new GO lines".

Of course it wasn't explicitly mentioned in the letter, but it's reasonable to assume the midtown line would be one of these potential new lines unlocked by the missing link.

 

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Rodney 🚧🚇 (@chanface.bsky.social)

Some thoughts from @wb62.bsky.social

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It is an inference from the DoFo letter, which talks about the freight rail bypass "missing link" along with the wording of "potential to unlock new GO lines".

Of course it wasn't explicitly mentioned in the letter, but it's reasonable to assume the midtown line would be one of these potential new lines unlocked by the missing link.

Replied to this thought in the bypass thread, won't repost it here.

The midtown line may be enabled by the bypass, in some future decade, but it isn't really an immediate deliverable of the current direction.

- Paul

 

[nfitz]

Of course it wasn't explicitly mentioned in the letter, but it's reasonable to assume the midtown line would be one of these potential new lines unlocked by the missing link.

I'd assume it's more a reference to the various other CP lines and old ROWs that radiate out of TO. Oshawa, Peterborough, Vaughan, Orangeville, etc.

I don't think the proposed link from Bramalea to Milton would do anything more than allow for capacity expansion on the Kitchener line.

 

[Willybru21]

There are exciting things planned in GO 2.0, more than just the freight bypass!

 

[peti]

Exactly this.

We can look to MTO's 2051 GGH transportation plan for inspiration:

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I Imagine we would see:

1. Milton Electrification
2. Toronto Northern GO route - a new commuter rail / metro route from Hamilton to Oshawa via North Oakville, Mississauga, Pearson, Vaughan, Richmond Hill, Markham, Seaton, and Brooklyn
3. GO RER extension to Downtown Hamilton GO
4. GO RER Extension to Kitchener

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Other potentials which aren't identified in the GGH 2051 TMP:
1. GO Midtown Line
2. Bolton GO line
3. Brantford GO service (connections to Downtown Hamilton?)
4. Niagara RER
5. Uxbridge GO extension
6.Guelph - Cambridge GO
7. GO RER to Bowmanville
8. London GO service

Is this green line from Hamilton to Oshawa feasible off existing rail lines?

 

[innsertnamehere]

Is this green line from Hamilton to Oshawa feasible off existing rail lines?

Absolutely not. It would involve extensive new alignment construction along the 407.

 

[Milaisacat]

The notional freight rail bypass would parallel Hwy 407. Conceivably, there could be a Metrolinx ROW included in that new rail corridor?

 

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Eastbound:

 

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Westbound:

 

[Yeltsa Kcir]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I read in another forum that the ONexpress contract transition handover has been delayed by either 6 or 10 months. If that is the case, isn't the timing of this GO 2.0 announcement a little fishy? Sounds to me like they're trying to cover up that GO 1.0 is behind schedule.

 

[Northern Light]

I don't know if it's true or not, but I read in another forum that the ONexpress contract transition handover has been delayed by either 6 or 10 months

That is true.

The transition has been delayed to early October, 2025.

 

[Yeltsa Kcir]

That is true.

The transition has been delayed to early October, 2025.

Ah ok, I just find it strange how the story hasn't been covered by any local media yet, unless it's because people are still coming back from the holidays.

 

[Northern Light]

Ah ok, I just find it strange how the story hasn't been covered by any local media yet, unless it's because people are still coming back from the holidays.

The media bury/sit-on a lot of stories they are aware of; while in some cases they are just obtuse.

Perhaps you should post about the issue on social and tag a media outlet or their Transportation reporter, if they have one, and ask when they were thinking of covering it.

 

[SaugeenJunction]

There are exciting things planned in GO 2.0, more than just the freight bypass!

Yes. Media is mainly covering the bypass element of it, but there is lots more to come.