rbt
Senior Member
The most recent full map is from 2019. They don't seem to update it with the individual route maps anymore.
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The most recent full map is from 2019. They don't seem to update it with the individual route maps anymore.
ShonTron
Moderator
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I believe the City is currently phasing out area rating for the vast majority of items.
There have been a few route changes since 2019 - an extension of service to Winona comes to mind - which makes a lack of current transit map for Hamilton frustrating.
Hamilton has been investing a lot in it's bus system lately, but is currently limited in frequencies by the capacity of their single bus storage garage. Most service improvements have been in the off peak to increase bus utilization.
Their new bus garage should open in a year or so and that will give them a lot more ability to ramp service levels.
Corktownie
New Member
There is in fact an up-to-date HSR map on their website under Schedule & Route Tools > Trip Planning Tools:
Trip Planning Tools | City of Hamilton
www.hamilton.ca
Metroscapes
Active Member
I gave a crack at it, you can view it here. This is a complete guess, maybe tomorrow we'll learn more.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Interesting news. I think GO would be better off just offering a semi-frequent Hwy 6 service to Caledonia / Hagersville. Maybe even extend it down to Simcoe, which is sorely lacking in regional bus connections.
Northern Light
Superstar
Agreed.
I would create a separate route along 54 to connect Caledonia to Brantford.
Every if its only 3x per day, each way. It would connect Caledonia and Six Nations to the largest urban centres nearby.
They could do dail-a-ride or a hyper local service from Oshwekin down to 54.
nfitz
Superstar
Perfect ... and only 3 months old. I didn't click deep enough. I'll stop criticizing the TTC website - hard to believe that in this day and age, HSR doesn't have their own yet!There is in fact an up-to-date HSR map on their website under Schedule & Route Tools > Trip Planning Tools:
Trip Planning Tools | City of Hamilton
www.hamilton.ca
Why would it go back to Hamilton at all? They've already announced this new leg of service is between the Nations and Brantford.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
Yup. could tie in a Hamilton Airport connection as well, I think it would be decently well used as a semi-frequent service from Caledonia northwards - Probably bi-hourly with hourly peak hour service. South of Caledonia you could do a more infrequent service for regional connections - a few buses a day.
Caledonia has probably around 20,000 people these days and a large commuter flow into Hamilton, with another 100,000 people or so scattered across Haldimand and Norfolk counties. There is a population base for it.
Generally, GO could expend semi-frequent services in the following areas I think:
1. Haldimand / Norfolk
2. Southern Niagara (Welland & Port Colbourne)
3. Lindsay / Kawartha Lakes
4. Orillia
5. Collingwood / Wasaga Beach
6. Alliston
7. Port Hope / Cobourg
8. Elmira / Fergus
9. Stratford
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Northern Light
Superstar
Of the above, Welland is integrated to Niagara Transit, which, hopefully, is set to become a moderately robust service over the next few years.
Orillia could be served (well is) by Lynx.......but needs to be 7-days per week and have evenings as well.
The others seem more isolated / in need of GO to me.
ShonTron
Moderator
4, 5, and 6 are in Simcoe County Linx territory and have service. They just have to be boosted with evenings and weekends as well as better connections/fare integration.
Haldimand County and Lindsay would be my first two choices.
not_taylor
New Member
I don't think this will be the routing at all. This will be an extension of the 15, not a total rerouting. The Six Nations portion will likely come after the bus service Brantford first since that is one of the largest customer base on the route.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
GO is better at serving these as they are regional routes - people are looking for regional connections. Someone from outside of Simcoe Region looking to travel to Orillia or Collingwood will not as readily use a local service as they would a GO service - just as when GO has grown to any new area ridership has expanded significantly over any previous service offerings - it brings with it a recognizable brand, fare system, user familiarity, and better cross-regional awareness of route options.
Linx is fine for someone from Orillia wanting to go to Barrie. But what if someone from Newmarket decides they want to take transit to Orillia? right now, most would assume they have to drive or would be unwilling to take Linx due to additional connections and fare systems to work through. A continuous GO service would attract a lot of these riders.
Metroscapes
Active Member
Lots of suggested improvements to this route to serve Six Nations, but just re-quoting this for emphasis.