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MidtownKW said:
I don't even think this changes during really cold weather, unless the Region and I have different definitions of cold. I have been on recently at 6:45am, twelve below zero, and the doors still open at stations where no one is getting on or off.

I find the change frustrating. One regional councillor argued that the change is friendlier for riders of disabilities. Possibly true, but it is a real comfort issue for all users when it's very hot or very cold.
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Don't buy that argument. With the doors opening necessarily at every stop, the coldest part of the trams is going to be the wheelchair accessible zone. Right in between two doors. Don't think that's doing disabled people any favours.
 
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Monarch Butterfly said:
Doesn't Toronto (Wheel-Trans), Waterloo (MobilityPLUS), and other Ontario jurisdictions have some sort of accessible transportation available? Would think in snowy conditions like today, being picked up at your door would be better than struggling through the snow, people, traffic, etc. to use Line 6 to get to a destination? Yes, it needs improvement.
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Wheel-Trans does exist but it doesn't always mean its a replacement for transit. Also, the qualifications to gain access to Wheel-Trans services are more than just "use a cane" or "have a walker". People with accessibility needs should still be able to use the system like an able-bodied person can, regardless of weather conditions.
 
bearcat said:
Why would an outside button ever need to act as a stop request? Can the streetcar not distinguish between an inside or outside button? Or am I misunderstanding what you said?
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It doesn't.

But it seems as if the buttons haven't been programmed in a way to differentiate between a press happening from inside the car versus one from outside the car. They have the two modes that operate identically on the inside and outside of the cars.

ZEBuilder said:
KW disabled the buttons during covid and now only uses them during really cold weather. In all other cases all the doors open at a stop regardless of the number of people getting on or off. You can have one person getting on at 9pm but all 4 doors will still open.
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This aligns with what I remembered, but it'd been long enough that I didn't consider myself sure. Thanks for the confirmation.

Dan
 
So, I know this is just anecdotal evidence based on a tiny sample size of 1, but I rode this line end to end twice in the same day on Dec. 23rd, and had a positive experience. There were multiple times I clocked the train going over 50 km/h, once even hitting just over 60. Total travel time was about 30 minutes flat. I couldn't understand what everyone was whining about so much here and on social media. Maybe I got lucky? It certainly wasn't crawling as anticipated.
 
innsertnamehere said:
30 minutes end to end is significantly below every reported travel time I've seen. I haven't ridden it since opening day but it was almost an hour for me that day.
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Same here. I rode it once to check it out, a week after it opened, on an average winter day with no major precipitation, and it took 55 minutes in each direction. Since I wasn't actually going anywhere (it was a sightseeing trip), I didn't mind how long it took.
 
T-Bor said:
30 minutes is unbelievable. What was it that sped up the trip? I.e. greater speed? Nobody boarding, etc?
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It was mildly busy - there were people getting on/off at pretty much every stop. The driver absolutely gunned it between stops though, which really surprised me given the negative word of mouth. It was moving so fast at points that it prompted me to take out my phone to check the speed...
 
Towered said:
It was mildly busy - there were people getting on/off at pretty much every stop. The driver absolutely gunned it between stops though, which really surprised me given the negative word of mouth. It was moving so fast at points that it prompted me to take out my phone to check the speed...
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Lets hope this operator doesnt get fired for providing high quality service.
 
Towered said:
It was mildly busy - there were people getting on/off at pretty much every stop. The driver absolutely gunned it between stops though, which really surprised me given the negative word of mouth. It was moving so fast at points that it prompted me to take out my phone to check the speed...
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a member of this forum must've hijacked the cabin
 
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