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They also care big time about immigration, as we have seen. The bully tactics aren't going over well, but there are still a large number of people who just want all those "undesirables" tossed out. I spend a lot of time in the US (or did until this year), and that's what I hear discussed more than the price of eggs.

To be fair to them. Illegal immigration is a problem. And it has really hit the poorest Americans the hardest with competition for housing and jobs. And that really surged during the Biden years.


We don't have nearly the same problem with illegal immigration in Canada and just look at what a surge with legal immigration did to our discourse in Canada.
 

The Pentagon has ordered about 1,500 active duty soldiers to be ready in case of a possible deployment to Minnesota, where federal authorities have been conducting a massive immigration enforcement operation, two defense officials said Sunday.

The officials, who spoke on condition of anonymity to discuss sensitive military plans, said two infantry battalions of the Army’s 11th Airborne Division have been given prepare-to-deploy orders. The unit is based in Alaska and specializes in operating in arctic conditions.

One defense official said the troops are standing by to deploy to Minnesota should President Donald Trump invoke the Insurrection Act, a rarely used 19th century law that would allow him to employ active duty troops as law enforcement.

The move comes just days after Trump threatened to do just that to quell protests against his administration’s immigration crackdown. On Thursday, Trump said in a social media post that he would invoke the 1807 law “if the corrupt politicians of Minnesota don’t obey the law and stop the professional agitators and insurrectionists from attacking the Patriots of I.C.E., who are only trying to do their job.'' He appeared to walk back the threat a day later, telling reporters at the White House that there wasn’t a reason to use it “right now.” “If I needed it, I’d use it,” Trump said. “It’s very powerful.” Trump has repeatedly threatened to invoke the Insurrection Act throughout both of his terms. In 2020 he threatened to use it to quell protests after George Floyd was killed by Minneapolis police, and in recent months he threatened to use it for immigration protests. The law was most recently invoked by President George H.W. Bush in 1992 to end unrest in Los Angeles after the acquittal of four white police officers in the beating of Rodney King.

Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz, a Democrat and frequent target of Trump, has urged the president to refrain from sending in more troops.

“I’m making a direct appeal to the President: Let’s turn the temperature down. Stop this campaign of retribution. This is not who we are,” Walz said last week on social media.
 
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To be fair to them. Illegal immigration is a problem. And it has really hit the poorest Americans the hardest with competition for housing and jobs. And that really surged during the Biden years.


We don't have nearly the same problem with illegal immigration in Canada and just look at what a surge with legal immigration did to our discourse in Canada.
You guys keep saying that, but I don't think it is...

...least not in needing to say, "They have may a point."
 
You guys keep saying that, but I don't think it is...

...least not in needing to say, "They have may a point."
I think it is a perception of a problem rather than the problem it is made out to be. Immigrants, legal and undocumented, do jobs that most of those who complain the loudest wouldn’t do. That’s why the agricultural immigrants are protected

The tripe that criminals are coming in droves is unfounded and nothing but scare tactics. There are plenty of homegrown criminals … and terrorists
 
People are reading way too much into that deal. We're going back to 2024 tariff levels. It's not that we're becoming deep friends with China. Just not coordinating policy with the US.
Agreed, all the hyperventilating is crazy to me. Based on the coverage, you'd think Canada signed some new wide-ranging defense treaty with the Chinese instead of a targeted tariff reduction.
 
Problem with economic indicators is that I think USA GDP has grown at a rate of about 3% last year, while no other G7 country did half that.
GDP is less important than income distribution. If Bezos, Musk, Zuckerberg, and a host of Private Equity Bros get richer, that doesn’t help the common MAGA man.
 
I think it is a perception of a problem rather than the problem it is made out to be. Immigrants, legal and undocumented, do jobs that most of those who complain the loudest wouldn’t do. That’s why the agricultural immigrants are protected

The tripe that criminals are coming in droves is unfounded and nothing but scare tactics. There are plenty of homegrown criminals … and terrorists
...and that's why bringing up immigration as a problem will always raise red flags for me. It's the question of how the US got to where it is today among other things which likely started by folks with influence raising "concerns" when at the time adorning white sheets became a public liability. Because it never seems stops with those concerns. And here we are today.
 
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Agreed, all the hyperventilating is crazy to me. Based on the coverage, you'd think Canada signed some new wide-ranging defense treaty with the Chinese instead of a targeted tariff reduction.
It's not so banal as a modification of tariff rates. It signaled a thaw in China-Canada relations that have been poor for a decade, and a willingness of Canada to break with the US in their protectionism with China.
 
PBS reporting tonight that Trump sent a deranged letter to the PM of Norway linking the "failure" of Norway to award him with the Nobel prize to his threats to invade Greenland. We are well into 25th. Amendment territory now and the persons with the authority to invoke the 25A need to act soon. This madman cannot be allowed to stay in the White House with his fingers on the nuclear switch.

The European nations need to tell Trump in clear unequivocal language that if he attempts to take Greenland not only will they defend Greenland, but NATO will cease to exist, and the US will be evicted from all US bases on European soil. They should also make it very clear that with NATO dead the EU will not waste any time looking to the east for new security partners. Without US bases in Europe the US would be unable to project its military might in the Middle East. This last aspect in particular would cause major alarm among some very powerful people who own Trump, i.e. his biggest donors.


Text of Trumps letter (can't make this up!):

"Dear Ambassador:

President Trump has asked that the following message, shared with Prime Minister Jonas Gahr Støre, be forwarded to your [named head of government/state]

“Dear Jonas: Considering your Country decided not to give me the Nobel Peace Prize for having stopped 8 Wars PLUS, I no longer feel an obligation to think purely of Peace, although it will always be predominant, but can now think about what is good and proper for the United States of America. Denmark cannot protect that land from Russia or China, and why do they have a “right of ownership” anyway? There are no written documents, it’s only that a boat landed there hundreds of years ago, but we had boats landing there, also. I have done more for NATO than any other person since its founding, and now, NATO should do something for the United States. The World is not secure unless we have Complete and Total Control of Greenland. Thank you! President DJT”
 
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Well, you already seem to be determined to ignore plenty of "uninteligent" arguments that there is no military benefit for US sovereign ownership of Greenland, however sound those arguments may be.
No one in a Western European nation, especially a Scandinavian one (including Greenland) wants to join the US. To them, with its high mortality, poor living standards, rubbish infrastructure and huge income disparity, the US is the shit hole country.

“American exceptionalism” has nothing to offer these people.
 
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I genuinely love many things about the United States—it’s one of my favourite places, at least in normal times. But I’ve never felt a strong pull to live there unless I were extremely wealthy. And even then, I suspect I’d choose London over New York.
 

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