[Sqazi]

It makes no sense to me why they wouldn't connect it to the Bloor entrance. Such a huge design flaw and a huge cost in terms of functionality. Alejandra Bravo, the local city councilor, should be advocating for having it link up to the Bloor entrance too.

 

[Metroscapes]

It will be great for people in Junction Triangle.

But people on the East side of Dundas will still have to cross the street to get into the subway station (or backtrack to the GO platform and access the tunnel from there)

You mean the west side of Dundas?

 

[Northern Light]

You mean the west side of Dundas?

No, he means the east side, see below:

Where the X is placed, if you were there, you wouldn't be be able to directly access Dundas West Station, you would have to cross the street, or go to the GO Station to obtain access.

Of course, any connection to the station at that spot would require either a direct, new, connection to the platforms, or a tunnel under Dundas to access the existing station.

 

[facepalming_brooklynite]

It makes no sense to me why they wouldn't connect it to the Bloor entrance. Such a huge design flaw and a huge cost in terms of functionality. Alejandra Bravo, the local city councilor, should be advocating for having it link up to the Bloor entrance too.

The Bloor entrance to GO/UP is actually not all that useful, since it does not lead to any other mode of transport -- it only leads to a sidewalk that is raised high above the road and the bike lane. The Bloor entrance can really only used by people arriving on foot, and once the new connections are functional, fewer pedestrians will need to walk through there. The apartment buildings to the West and East don't have their (main) entrances on Bloor Street, so pedestrians are going to come either from Dundas or from Perth or from the Railpath, and in each case, they will have better options than using the Bloor entrance to GO.

 

[nfitz]

Where the X is placed, if you were there, you wouldn't be be able to directly access Dundas West Station, you would have to cross the street, or go to the GO Station to obtain access.

Of course, any connection to the station at that spot would require either a direct, new, connection to the platforms, or a tunnel under Dundas to access the existing station.

The Dundas West platforms, and construction for the connection, is significantly east of the X. An entrance there would be a completely separate non-province project.

What's unfortunate is that it seems there is no entrance to surface or Crossways, anywhere east of Dundas. Which is unfortunate, as there seems to be plenty of space for that on the Crossways property, on the roadway area north of the building.

I wonder what the medium-term future of the now relatively small, 50-year old Crossways building is.

 

[Sqazi]

The Bloor entrance to GO/UP is actually not all that useful, since it does not lead to any other mode of transport -- it only leads to a sidewalk that is raised high above the road and the bike lane. The Bloor entrance can really only used by people arriving on foot, and once the new connections are functional, fewer pedestrians will need to walk through there. The apartment buildings to the West and East don't have their (main) entrances on Bloor Street, so pedestrians are going to come either from Dundas or from Perth or from the Railpath, and in each case, they will have better options than using the Bloor entrance to GO.

Hard disagree. Lots of rez and multi rez development east of Dundas where the Bloor street entrance would be a lot more accessible than the Randolph entrance.

 

[facepalming_brooklynite]

Hard disagree. Lots of rez and multi rez development east of Dundas where the Bloor street entrance would be a lot more accessible than the Randolph entrance.

I guess time will tell.

The new developments won't change the fact that Bloor Street dips down here, which makes the entrance to UP/GO inaccessible from the road or from the south side of Bloor.

People coming from future developments on the South side of Bloor are better off taking the railpath to Randolph, in my opinion. And I don't see why anyone coming from the north side of Bloor would not simply walk to Perth and Randolph. Keep in mind that the subway is itself north of Bloor, so it's not like walking to Randolph is a detour.

 

[SubHuman]

Another raft of solutions for a non-existent problem. It's been called Dundas West for decades and everyone managed to find it. It's on the map and the map is on everyone's phone. You would have to be very, very stupid or completely illiterate to be unable to find it.

Finding it is not the main problem, certainly not for all of us who are familiar with the area. But particularly for first-time vistors, I have noticed multiple examples over the last few years of some who have obviously not known there are (or were, now in the case of TMU) other stations with the same/similar name(s) (Bloor, Dundas), so not realized they were at the wrong station. Just this past summer at least twice I walked past confused-looking people with suitcases asking someone else if they knew where their hotel was (I'm reasonably certain there is no hotel anywhere near here), and also had a German guy ask me for help. He was looking for an address on Dundas St near Yonge St. He certainly did not seem to be stupid or illiterate to me.

And now that I think about it, "finding it" may be a problem for some because of the lack of adequate signs in the station(s) and on the street. For example, on Bloor St (link to Google street view from west; from east) the signs for that entrance are very small and easy to miss.
Was it decided that the name of the subway station was definitely going to be changed, and therefore they might be waiting for the tunnel connection to open as the time to do it, and then put up more and larger signs?

 

[urbancog]

What's unfortunate is that it seems there is no entrance to surface or Crossways, anywhere east of Dundas

Technically, there's an entrance/exit to the surface sandwiched between the Milton track and the new condo north of Crossways. Though the route is far from convenient, I believe this is the route most often used to connect between GO & TTC stations at the moment because the GO platforms are north of the UP platforms.

 

[M II A II R II K]

Too bad the east end of the Dundas West platform couldn’t have had a connection also.

 

[facepalming_brooklynite]

Too bad the east end of the Dundas West platform couldn’t have had a connection also.

What do you mean? There will be a connection to the east end of the subway platform -- there's already hoarding there

 

[nfitz]

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Technically, there's an entrance/exit to the surface sandwiched between the Milton track and the new condo north of Crossways. Though the route is far from convenient, I believe this is the route most often used to connect between GO & TTC stations at the moment because the GO platforms are north of the UP platforms.

I don't see that being used to get to/from Crossways though. I've used it to the subway station, but the lack of a traffic light makes it slower now.

There used to be a path directly there before that new condo went in. I'm not sure why it hasn't reopened.

Hmm, I guess there's going to have to be a TTC fare paid zone to get from the west side of Dundas to the train station (might be useful if it's pouring with rain). Okay for GO with the free transfer; annoying for UP.

 

[rdaner]

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[facepalming_brooklynite]

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D'uh!