11th
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It was a white elephant because access was inconvenient and they didn't close Dorval, if I recall.
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zang
Senior Member
…and companies like Air Canada moved a lot of their operations out of Quebec after the political climate caused another exodus. =
nfitz
Superstar
Well it certainly contributed to that perception. But Pickering airport, like the original federal government plan for Montreal, is only about 30 km from downtown. Mirabel is about 60 km from downtown.
Gosh, he's at the drawing with crayons on napkins stage of his golden years. He'll be yelling at the clouds soon!Michael Schabas has his own idea for high speed rail, in this unsolicited submission. Ignore the spelling errors.
Alto Conceptual Design and Business Case Schabas.pdf
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The choice of obscure station names is ... cute. And Joliette+Shawinigan! Well, that will lead to some cool new bridges and/or tunnels. Ultra-convenient for me ... but really screws over T-R. And not going near downtown Quebec City is an interesting choice - literally reversing VIA's early 1980s reversal of CPs 1970s closure.
kEiThZ
Superstar
Attended the online consultation today. What a waste of time.
generalcanada
Senior Member
NL posted a week or 2 ago that apperently notices have went out
ShonTron
Moderator
St. Roch isn’t actually that bad for Quebec City, actually, as St. Roch is the old commercial centre just north (and below) the National Assembly and Old City.
But “Kingson–Murvale” is a really silly place for a station. And the Hamilton station placement makes me think he mixed up his HSRs.
Northern Light
Superstar
Notices are imminent, most haven't yet gone out.
But notices are not 'intent to expropriate', they are ' your property is of interest'. *
* not exact wording, but they are not an expropriation claim, at this stage, though they certainly may be an omen of such to come
innsertnamehere
Superstar
The Hamilton mountain spur idea is hilariously terrible. He wants a massive tunneled alignment to serve Hamilton’s suburbs and an airport with like 8 flights a day.
Northern Light
Superstar
Michael Schabas has his own idea for high speed rail, in this unsolicited submission. Ignore the spelling errors.
Alto Conceptual Design and Business Case Schabas.pdf
View attachment 712091
You know what I won't ignore....that the idea comes from Michael, who has rarely had an original thought of any quality.
Allandale25
Senior Member
What are people saying about ALTO - the new high-speed train in Canada?
Sentiment analysis of ALTO's interactive map
beyondtherails.substack.com
lenaitch
Senior Member
A friend of ours has received one for a highway expansion that likely won't happen in any of our lifetimes. I'm not sure about expropriation legislation but it could also put a lock on things like zoning changes and building permits until such time as the property is actually expropriated or the notice is rescinded.
micheal_can
Senior Member
I know someone that when they are ready to sell, they can only sell to the MTO at market value.
Northern Light
Superstar
What are people saying about ALTO - the new high-speed train in Canada?
Sentiment analysis of ALTO's interactive map
By and large, good piece, well thought out, does a good job of separating his view from those of the broader public.
However, he has one thing very wrong......he argues there is no tunnel required to the Union Station connection, seemingly, because he's under the impression GO will terminate a host of services at East Harbour and Exhibition.
I don't know what has given him this idea......but unless someone is fooling me big time.....there is a slightly greater chance of hell freezing over. I do agree the service should go to Union, but I don't think tunnelling can be avoided.
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Northern Light
Superstar
Things are moving a bit faster here than is typical. You're on point.....but keep in mind the enabling legislation here gives Alto sweeping powers in regard to expropriation that are more....'liberal' than the norm.
lenaitch
Senior Member
I wasn't aware if sale was restricted (it might be) but it would certainly limit marketability otherwise. She was under the impression that if she sold now, they would tear her house down - they won't be a landlord.