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Their mistake with Finch was publicizing a soft opening. Personally I think they should wait until May - at least overground - once they complete theTSP. But if they want to tempt fate, I'd do it as quietly as possible.
If they treat the on-street and underground portions differently that reinforces the belief that the on-street is an inherently worse option and the planners involved in the decision to do it that way were grossly negligent.
Maybe it's not bad if they told the truth for once.
 
If they treat the on-street and underground portions differently that reinforces the belief that the on-street is an inherently worse option and the planners involved in the decision to do it that way were grossly negligent.
Maybe it's not bad if they told the truth for once.
Or acknowledge that in the short term they are different, but the long term goal is One Line™️
 
If they treat the on-street and underground portions differently that reinforces the belief that the on-street is an inherently worse option and the planners involved in the decision to do it that way were grossly negligent.
Maybe it's not bad if they told the truth for once.
The planners, in this case, went along with the mandates they received from the politicians. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates...

It should not surprise us that the outcome is unsatisfactory, and it is silly to blame the planners for this state of affairs.

There's actually a wonderful industry term for transit and traffic planners who stick firmly to best practices and resist political efforts to monkey with their plans. That term is "unemployable".
 
It's now Feb 1, and the supposed opening is Feb 8. If I am not mistaken, the TTC has not officially announced that the line is opening next week? Are we seriously getting less than a week's worth of official notice, or have we been Eglinton'd yet again by a promised opening date?
Per The Star story from yesterday on the emergency braking issue, TTC will give an update at the board meeting on Tuesday.

Now, according to a memo obtained by the Star, the TTC “will provide the Board with an update at (our) scheduled meeting next Tuesday on the progress” of Line 5, just five days before the line is expected to open.

Link no paywall: https://archive.is/Mtt1D
 
It's now Feb 1, and the supposed opening is Feb 8. If I am not mistaken, the TTC has not officially announced that the line is opening next week? Are we seriously getting less than a week's worth of official notice, or have we been Eglinton'd yet again by a promised opening date?
Ideally they should just start operating it with zero notice - do a ceremony in a few months once they go to full operation.

It's been pretty clear though that they'll provide further communication at the meeting on Tuesday morning.
 
Ideally they should just start operating it with zero notice - do a ceremony in a few months once they go to full operation.

It's been pretty clear though that they'll provide further communication at the meeting on Tuesday morning.
They do that normal with route changes. Surprise! You don’t know what’s going on if you don’t keep up.
 
The planners, in this case, went along with the mandates they received from the politicians. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates. Then revised their plans when the politicians changed these mandates...

It should not surprise us that the outcome is unsatisfactory, and it is silly to blame the planners for this state of affairs.

There's actually a wonderful industry term for transit and traffic planners who stick firmly to best practices and resist political efforts to monkey with their plans. That term is "unemployable".

The planners and the politicians do not talk to each other directly. Responsibility for that coordination rests with the high-level managers at Metrolinx, TTC, or the City's Transportation Department.

The planners have to perform the modeling and produce the best results based on their knowledge, and then truthfully report those results to their supervisor within the organization. If their model is poor and the results are inaccurate, it is the planners' responsibility.

If the model is good, but they are too afraid to even pass their accurate results confidentially to their supervisor, that's still their responsibility. Do your job well, or switch to another area altogether.

Now, if the planners tell the accurate results to their management, but the management decides to hide the truth and publicise something other than the truth in order to please the politicians; that's the management's fault. In that case we can't blame the planners if they did not become whistleblowers and did not go to the public directly. But we can and should blame the high-level managers responsible for the project.

In any case, we can't say that "noone is responsible" or "the politicians are solely responsible". Elected politicians are a messy bunch by definition, hardly capable of carrying any sort of responsibility. But in this situation, there should exist a direct culprit (or a few of them), and a public inquiry to find those would be a good idea.
 
It's now Feb 1, and the supposed opening is Feb 8. If I am not mistaken, the TTC has not officially announced that the line is opening next week? Are we seriously getting less than a week's worth of official notice, or have we been Eglinton'd yet again by a promised opening date?
An announcement is coming on Tuesday. Very little notice because again, clearly TTC is embarrassed to open the line and doesn't want another Finch fiasco that would risk negative PR, so they're not as gung ho about the opening this time. It's probably gonna be a fairly low key opening with not as much fanfare cause of this. By keeping it as low key as possible and lowering the bar, they lower the chance of bad headlines, hence why it's little notice.
 
Based on what I hear from people familiar with the line, I don’t understand why they would go ahead with the opening on February 8. It sounds like there are still issues that could trip up the line.
Probably because now that date, it's out there and going back on the opening again will just piss off people more. They're in a lose lose situation here.
 
I wonder if they made a bunch of souvenir coins for the launch, and have no idea what to do with them now.
Melt them down, print the next batch with a blank in the last digit 202_ to cover their bases
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