valvenis
New Member
No,it was supposed to open in 20208...Wasn't this supposed to open by 2020 already?
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youngblood
Active Member
Lose if they dont open on Feb 8th.
Lose if they do open on Feb 8th.
Lose on the way this Feb 8th announcement is being handled.
McGillicuddy
Active Member
I guess it's really going to come down to a fight between the between the people who have friends inside the TTC who hear the launch can't possibly happen on the 8th, and the people who have friends inside the TTC who hear the launch is definitely happening on the 8th.
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hw621
Senior Member
Could be more like "if" Line 5 opens...
nfitz
Superstar
Or perhaps if they use the same vehicles they are currently using on Line 3.
duffo
Active Member
The schedule and notices were all created assuming Line 5 was starting on Feb 8. But from what I've heard (as of late last week) due to recent developments there is zero certainty inside the TTC that it will actually begin service on that date.
A 6264
Active Member
I presume you mean the previous Line 3, not the future one. Are the trains sitting in storage at McCowan Yard? Will it be like how they stored old streetcars for years, presumably hoping they could be refurbished and restored if really needed.Or perhaps if they use the same vehicles they are currently using on Line 3.
urbanclient
Active Member
What exactly happened to them to reach this level of decay? Were they stripped for parts and left to rot? Or vandalism
A 6264
Active Member
Probably both. I've seen pics of some 50 streetcars in this state in Greenwood Yard, and a pic taken inside one of the vehicles, where some of the furnishings were still partially intact, like the old stuffed upholstered seats. I was joking of course, they were being kept for scrap, but I don't know why they sat around for a few years.
A 6264
Active Member
Of course, I got the details wrong. They were in the storage yard at Wychwood near St. Clair, and the interior shot does not show padded seats, though it does show seats in good condition. There is a page with an article and more pics, taken a few years earlier when the streetcars were not as decayed. Here's a link.
https://transittoronto.ca/streetcar/4005.shtml
https://transittoronto.ca/streetcar/4005.shtml
nfitz
Superstar
I was making a joke and referring to the current Line 3 replacement bus service.
I wouldn't be surprised to see Line 5 replacement buses running on part or all of the Line 5 route from Weston to Kennedy.
Anyhow, we may find out more Tuesday morning. Patience ...
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smallspy
Senior Member
These were actively being scrapped.
They were not being stored for future use. They had already long since passed that.
Cars that were stored for long-term purposes were run every couple of weeks to ensure that they held air, didn't freeze up, etc. They were sometimes kept off-wire in order to save on power, but the yards did have overhead.
This is in contrast to the Witt cars and trailers stored after the opening of the Yonge Line. They were stored off-wire in temporary yards - primarily to hold them until they could be taken away for scrapping.
The cars in the images you posted before, however, were none of those.
Dan
fiendishlibrarian
Active Member
I'm pretty certain some retired Gloucesters were stored at Keele Yard.
crs1026
Superstar
crs1026
Superstar
Indeed. Note that some photos are of air electrics not the CLRV-displaced PCC's in post-70's rebuilt condition. The deadline that formed at Wychwood after the arrival of the CLRV's was a different proposition than earlier deadlines of air-electric PCC's that happened as Line 2 opened and the air-electrics were phased out - some sold, some scrapped.
- Paul