[Richard White]

If they are afraid of that harm, they should have done better.

It's not just about harm, it is about the complexity. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of people involved in the project that could be implicated.

You would need to go through the process of interviewing them, taking testimony, and then reviewing the allegations.. etc.

It is not as clear cut as Doug Ford and the PC's mishandled this. It is far more wide ranging and complex making the scale of any public inquiry quite large.

While I do think a public inquiry is good, it is not as simple as having the Auditor General review this. It would go on for years, take dozens of qualified people to oversee and only then would anything come of it.

 

[micheal_can]

It's not just about harm, it is about the complexity. There are literally hundreds, if not thousands of people involved in the project that could be implicated.

You would need to go through the process of interviewing them, taking testimony, and then reviewing the allegations.. etc.

It is not as clear cut as Doug Ford and the PC's mishandled this. It is far more wide ranging and complex making the scale of any public inquiry quite large.

While I do think a public inquiry is good, it is not as simple as having the Auditor General review this. It would go on for years, take dozens of qualified people to oversee and only then would anything come of it.

Sounds like a plan. When do they start?

 

[doublemint]

Sounds like a plan. When do they start?

I'm with you there, this actually sounds great LOL. Hold everyone who needs to be held accountable, accountable; no matter the cost. You wanna take the other side of that debate and say it's not worth the time and money? Great! Simply fire the upper management and executives at Metrolinx, and have the premier and his cabinet step down.

That way, we both get what we want. The people who demand accountability get accountability, and the people who don't want to waste money on things they deem no longer relevant don't have to do that anymore. Win-win .

 

[smallspy]

While I understand the public wants someone's head on a pike, if they have a public inquiry it affects ALOT of people, not just current politicians but those from the past decade or more. The complexity of any inquiry would pale in comparison to anything held before.

Liberals, PC they are all tied to this debacle with Dalton McGuinty launching it in 2011. Yes Doug Ford had the most recent hand in things but that does not mean he was the only one.

Having a public inquiry could do alot more harm than good and I can see why people want to quash the idea.

So what?

The point of a public inquiry is to figure out what went wrong, how to fix it and how to make sure that it doesn't happen again.

The number of people is irrelevant. There will be a cost, yes, but if that cost results in savings - both monetary and in terms of time - on future projects, wouldn't that be worth it?

If the public inquiry were to bring to light the level of political interference in what is supposed to be a non-political body, then yes, someone's head does need to be on that rhetorical pike.

Dan

 

[Thaboss]

While I understand the public wants someone's head on a pike, if they have a public inquiry it affects ALOT of people, not just current politicians but those from the past decade or more. The complexity of any inquiry would pale in comparison to anything held before.

Liberals, PC they are all tied to this debacle with Dalton McGuinty launching it in 2011. Yes Doug Ford had the most recent hand in things but that does not mean he was the only one.

Having a public inquiry could do alot more harm than good and I can see why people want to quash the idea.

I'm sorry but no.

When asked what the learnings from crosstown was, ford basically gave a non answer. When Lindsay answered the question, his reponse was so vague. Only transit nerds like ppl on this page could possibly understand what he was alluding to. And even so, Lindsay mentioned learnings being applied to scarborough exstention...that alone should disqualify anything he says.

The bottom line is that their needs to be transparency. You don't want to do a full blown inquiry? then do an independent review of the problems and solutions so future projects can avoid it.

We need to have a recording of what went right and what went wrong so that the govt doesnt repeat itself and so we can understand how the govt is learning.

Right now, we gotta take Metrolinx’s words for it all.

 

[Steve X]

The problem seems like they don’t learn from their mistakes. We’ll see how Eg West and Hamilton lines go but I’m not holding my breath. They rely too much on The P3 to deliver these lines and there’s no building standards across what has been built so far. Any inquiry would be pointless.

 

[ThenWhat]

I'm sorry but no.

When asked what the learnings from crosstown was, ford basically gave a non answer. When Lindsay answered the question, his reponse was so vague. Only transit nerds like ppl on this page could possibly understand what he was alluding to. And even so, Lindsay mentioned learnings being applied to scarborough exstention...that alone should disqualify anything he says.

The bottom line is that their needs to be transparency. You don't want to do a full blown inquiry? then do an independent review of the problems and solutions so future projects can avoid it.

We need to have a recording of what went right and what went wrong so that the govt doesnt repeat itself and so we can understand how the govt is learning.

Right now, we gotta take Metrolinx’s words for it all.

Yes, exactly.

All we hear is "no need for an enquiry, we have learnt from our mistakes and will do better from now on."

OK, great, tell us what you learnt. What were those mistakes? What exactly are you going to do better on the next project? Will you have better engineers? Better contract lawyers? Clearer requirements? Better subcontractors? Less interference from politicians? Better deals from suppliers?

And what's with all the secrecy? This is a project for the public, funded by public money. What justification is there for all the confidentiality? From whom are you hiding all the information? Are you concerned that some other city will use it in their great infrastructure project?

 

[Northern Light]

Sure, he's a grandstander, but he's really quite good at it. LOL

 

[drum118]

Line 5 Eglinton set to open Sunday; TTC reminds customers about multiple boarding points along the line

February 6, 2026

The TTC has released scheduled train departure times for Line 5 Eglinton ahead of the start of service this Sunday morning.

With strong public interest expected throughout the day, the TTC is encouraging customers and transit enthusiasts to spread out along the line to help manage demand and avoid crowding at the terminal stations. All trains will serve every station, allowing riders to board at any point along the route.

As part of the phased opening of Line 5, the TTC is advising customers that there will be no grand opening ceremony, formal event, or commemorative merchandise on Sunday at any location.

To support safety and prevent platform overcrowding, customers may be asked to line up outside stations, with entry managed according to station capacity. Riders are encouraged to dress appropriately for the cold weather.

FIRST TRAIN DEPARTURES

The following times are the first two morning train departures at each Line 5 Eglinton station on Sunday, February 8. Eastbound services will continue to depart approximately every 7 to 8 minutes throughout the day, with westbound trains at the same frequency when the initial service builds.

EASTBOUND – Toward Kennedy Station
Mount Dennis: 7:37 / 7:45
Keelesdale: 7:40 / 7:48
Caledonia: 7:42 / 7:49
Fairbank: 7:45 / 7:52
Oakwood: 7:46 / 7:54
Cedarvale: 7:48 / 7:55
Forest Hill: 7:50 / 7:58
Chaplin: 7:52 / 7:59
Avenue: 7:54 / 8:01
Eglinton: 7:57 / 8:04
Mount Pleasant: 7:58 / 8:06
Leaside: 8:01 / 8:09
Laird: 8:04 / 8:11
Sunnybrook Park: 8:07 / 8:14
Don Valley: 8:09 / 8:16
Aga Khan Park & Museum: 8:10 / 8:18
Wynford: 8:12 / 8:20
Sloane: 8:16 / 8:23
O’Connor: 8:19 / 8:26
Pharmacy: 8:20 / 8:28
Hakimi Lebovic: 8:22 / 8:30
Golden Mile: 8:23 / 8:31
Birchmount: 8:26 / 8:34
Ionview: 8:27 / 8:35

WESTBOUND – Toward Mount Dennis Station
Kennedy: 7:30 / 7:51
Ionview: 7:32 / 7:53
Birchmount: 7:34 / 7:55
Golden Mile: 7:37 / 7:58
Hakimi Lebovic: 7:38 / 7:59
Pharmacy: 7:39 / 8:00
O’Connor: 7:41 / 8:02
Sloane: 7:44 / 8:05
Wynford: 7:48 / 8:09
Aga Khan Park & Museum: 7:49 / 8:10
Don Valley: 7:51 / 8:12
Sunnybrook Park: 7:53 / 8:14
Laird: 7:57 / 8:18
Leaside: 7:59 / 8:20
Mount Pleasant: 8:02 / 8:23
Eglinton: 8:04 / 8:25
Avenue: 8:06 / 8:27
Chaplin: 8:08 / 8:29
Forest Hill: 8:10 / 8:31
Cedarvale: 8:13 / 8:34
Oakwood: 8:14 / 8:35
Fairbank: 8:15 / 8:36
Caledonia: 8:18 / 8:39
Keelesdale: 8:20 / 8:41

The TTC serves as the operator for Line 5 Eglinton, bringing more than a century of expertise as North America’s third busiest public transit agency. Under agreements with Metrolinx and the City of Toronto, the TTC is responsible for operating trains, providing security and revenue control, and staffing stations to ensure a high level of customer satisfaction. The line’s infrastructure and vehicles are maintained by Crosslinx Transit Solutions (CTS) under contract to Metrolinx. As operator, the TTC works in close partnership with Metrolinx, the City, and project partners to deliver safe, reliable, and efficient service, integrating Line 5 Eglinton into Toronto’s broader transit.

 

[hw621]

Sure, he's a grandstander, but he's really quite good at it. LOL

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I just woke up from a long nap. Does the Crosstown reach heritage status already?

 

[81-717]

While I understand the public wants someone's head on a pike, if they have a public inquiry it affects ALOT of people, not just current politicians but those from the past decade or more. The complexity of any inquiry would pale in comparison to anything held before.

Liberals, PC they are all tied to this debacle with Dalton McGuinty launching it in 2011. Yes Doug Ford had the most recent hand in things but that does not mean he was the only one.

Having a public inquiry could do alot more harm than good and I can see why people want to quash the idea.

Leary's should definitely be right up there, because of his stupid 2017 decision to defer the line 2 fleet & signaling (if it weren't for him, we might've been riding the new trains this year already, and wouldn't be getting stranded between stations for 30–40 mins nearly every day due to signal issues).

 

[micheal_can]

I'm with you there, this actually sounds great LOL. Hold everyone who needs to be held accountable, accountable; no matter the cost. You wanna take the other side of that debate and say it's not worth the time and money? Great! Simply fire the upper management and executives at Metrolinx, and have the premier and his cabinet step down.

That way, we both get what we want. The people who demand accountability get accountability, and the people who don't want to waste money on things they deem no longer relevant don't have to do that anymore. Win-win .

We have gotten into a situation where politicians and other people are comfortable with no accountability with public funds. Maybe if a project comes either/and over budget and over time it has an automatic public inquiry, we might actually get things done on time and on budget.

 

[WillTo]

Why is there a 21 minute gap leaving Kennedy for the first train?!

 

[Westey]

While I understand the public wants someone's head on a pike, if they have a public inquiry it affects ALOT of people, not just current politicians but those from the past decade or more. The complexity of any inquiry would pale in comparison to anything held before.

Liberals, PC they are all tied to this debacle with Dalton McGuinty launching it in 2011. Yes Doug Ford had the most recent hand in things but that does not mean he was the only one.

Having a public inquiry could do alot more harm than good and I can see why people want to quash the idea.

I am surprised they don't do what Justin Trudeau would have done.
Appoint one of your insiders to be the Chairperson and then conclude you are innocent and the problem was the person before.
Depending on how well you bribe the media, that should make the issue go away.

 

[nfitz]

With the Line 5 data for next week loaded to the Triplinx trip planner, I looked at some travel times.

Kennedy station to Laird station at 5:40 pm on Tuesday. It's 28 minutes on the Line 5 compared to 30 minutes (5 minutes of walking are shown here) on the 34 bus.

Interestingly the 34 bus today is 34 minutes for the same trip!