A 6264
Active Member
It's hard to tell if this problem is the fault of the route, or the particular train you were on.
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It's hard to tell if this problem is the fault of the route, or the particular train you were on.
smallspy
Senior Member
I think it might be both.
When I took the line last week, I looked down at the rails - there is a surface texture at any location where a train stops that is best described as "pockmarked", and which I have never seen before.
Resilient wheelsets can create unusual effects on the railhead due to their flexibility, but I can't account for the surface finish that I saw - and especially not after a couple of months of service.
Dan
jmi22
Active Member
Not to rain on your parade, but people have been getting from Pearson to VMC in 15 minutes for decades - by car.
I think it's important to not get too deep into the bubble and realize that such a trip occurring in "just" an hour literally sounds like a joke to your average Joe. This will attract precisely 0% choice riders, particularly for anyone commuting to work in the airport zone who will either have to take a long walk down industrial drags or transfer to infrequent buses should they take the LRT.
thenorth
New Member
Yeah, except getting to Pearson by car costs my $40, and getting there by TTC costs $3.25.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Why would driving to Pearson cost $40?
A lot of people circumvent Uber/ Taxi charges by having a family or friend drop them off at the airport.
This is what transit has to compete with.
thenorth
New Member
Because not everyone has friends or family available to drop them off or pick them up from the airport.
thenorth
New Member
The UPX already demonstrates that there are many people who will take public transit to the Airport, despite the car nominally being faster. I don’t think we need to rehash this debate.
Bojaxs
Senior Member
Well obviously. My point is, a large amount of people do, and for those people the idea of taking transit to the airport will never cross their minds.
A 40-45 minute runtime from Line 1 to the Airport is woefully slow and is in no way competitive with driving to the airport.
This is why I'm dead set against the city continuously adding more stops to the UPX train. There needs to be an express service by transit to the airport. Should we just run an express GO bus from Union to Pearson?
But I digress. It's another classic example of the Toronto transit mentality. Connectivity > Speed
jmi22
Active Member
You can regularly drive from Union to Pearson in 30 minutes lmao? I'd like to see that, and the ensuing stunt driving ticket.
You're comparing apples to oranges, the UPX is always either faster than driving, or at least takes the same amount of time during very low traffic hours.
Line 6 is at least twice as slow, and in the example of VMC to Pearson, over four times as slow. People will take the fastest mode of transportation to their destination, and do not operate on a binary of "taking transit" v.s "not taking transit" as you seem to be assuming.
Lastly, no an uber to Pearson does not cost $40 from anywhere along Line 6, 99% of the time, stop with the dramatics. Not sure why you are taking my comment so personally.
A 6264
Active Member
To be fair, the comment...
...was a reply to:
So after seeing all that, I typed this question into Google search:
"how much would it cost to uber from vaugan station to pearson airport"
Try it yourself. Copy and paste. You can see the replies from Google's AI, AND Uber's own website.
jmi22
Active Member
Lyft is giving me $26, it pays to shop aroundTo be fair, the comment...
...was a reply to:
So after seeing all that, I typed this question into Google search:
"how much would it cost to uber from vaugan station to pearson airport"
Try it yourself. Copy and paste. You can see the replies from Google's AI, AND Uber's own website.
.Anyways, this is a bit pedantic, after spending a few grand on flights and hotels, I think most people are "splurging" on the rideshare if it means not taking 400% more time to get somewhere, and not having the haul their luggage thru stations.
Believe it or not, most Torontonians are not such penny pinchers that they'll refuse to spend an extra 20 bucks for their rare flight. Otherwise, the airport express from Kipling would be a lot more busy.
Allegedly "rapid" transit should be time competitive with all potential modes of transport, especially when we're dumping billions into it. Vancouvers Sky train link to their airport is what Line 6 should have been, but alas. At least old Mammolito got see Line 6 be the dumpster fire he predicted it would be.
thenorth
New Member
There is nothing pleasant or stress free about getting an Uber out of Pearson. Many, many times I’ve chosen to take the slower UPX to get home, because paying 5x to 10x more for an Uber wasn’t worth the cost.
Furthermore, there are many people who work at the Airport, who are not going to pay $40 to $80 per day on Uber rides to the Airport. And a disproportionate amount of them will live in northwest Toronto, due to its proximity to the airport.
Furthermore, there are many people who work at the Airport, who are not going to pay $40 to $80 per day on Uber rides to the Airport. And a disproportionate amount of them will live in northwest Toronto, due to its proximity to the airport.
Monarch Butterfly
Superstar
Forgetting that airport employees could use Line 6 or Line 5 to get to and from work at Pearson Airport. Not just passengers. Now that is one reason why those two lines should be running 24/7.
TRONto
Active Member
Everyone has different priorities and comfort with transportation modes. I find taking transit (UPX) more relaxing than a taxi ride to the airport but that's just me. In my case, I'd pay around $50 more for the taxi. Even for the exact same price I'd rather take the train.
thenorth
New Member
lol exactly.
Getting a ride out of Pearson, I have to deal with finding the Uber pickup zones, dealing with surge pricing, dealing with drivers cancelling rides or taking forever to come, traffic congestion, chatty drivers, etc. The train is far more relaxing.