doublemint
New Member
I think a big issue is that Quebec doesn't really return the courtesy, as others have said. Not just with transit announcements, but with signage in general (unlike in Ontario where provincial signage is always bilingual)
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stevensontransit
Active Member
Line 5 voice announcement and all way-finding signs are both English and French because this line along with line 6 are owned by Metrolinx which belongs to the Ontario government and all Ontario and Canada government owned buildings must have both languages.
mikey7767
Active Member
doady
Senior Member
I remember when announcements were first implemented on Mississauga buses, they were not automated, it was the drivers doing them. Sometimes they would yell or sing sarcastically. It's just an accessibility issue, I am happy to not be one of those who suffers from blindness, so I won't complain too much. More verbose announcements helping those in need, I can endure it. Maybe using a train seems easy and simple for us, but maybe it is not same for everyone.
T3G
Senior Member
It's a good thing, then, that no one has condemned next stop announcements, anywhere in this discussion.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
A cyclist was seriously injured at Eglinton & Oakwood last night. Now that the Eglinton Crosstown LRT is open, Toronto's cycling community deserves to know WHEN will the long promised bike lanes on that street be installed from Keele to Mt Pleasant?
www.cp24.com
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Male cyclist rushed to hospital after being struck by vehicle in Little Jamaica
A male cyclist has been struck by a vehicle in Little Jamaica, Toronto police say.
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A 6264
Active Member
I think you're referring to my post, but I never said that.
A 6264
Active Member
It was like that in Toronto too, except that sometimes customers and drivers would get into furious arguments over it! Customers would remind the drivers it's a TTC rule that they have to call out all the stops, the driver would say tell me your stop and I'll call it when we get there, customers would insist all other stops must be called out too. I wouldn't mention this if I only saw it once, but I saw it dozens of times. I wouldn't be surprised if a certain newspaper was rallying its readers to do this as some kind of protest.
zang
Senior Member
I'm gonna guess that Doug Ford's anti-bike lanes crusade (Bill 212) has put the kibosh on that, or at least ground it to a stop while the courts deal with Ford's appeal. The city wouldn't want to start spending money on something that's got a decent chance of being ripped out (be it the less-likely win in court, or Ford using the Notwithstanding Clause to get his way).
That said, they could paint a bicycle gutter at someone lower risk, but who knows how this capricious province will respond to that.
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
Actually, Phase 1 of eglintonTOday was already underway by the time Bill 212 was introduced, so it should be exempt. Phase 2 from Mt Pleasant to Brentcliffe is another matter, however.
nfitz
Superstar
It might be legally exempt now, but I bet that would change if the city tried to change it. Best to not mention it and keep it low profile until Ford is gone.
innsertnamehere
Superstar
I thought the "underway" exemption was for projects that literally had their construction contract issued already? Or did Phase 1 already have that?
TwoWheelPoli
Active Member
Avenue to Chaplin - which was part of eglintonTOday Phase 1 - was installed in 2024 before Bill 212 was introduced.
zang
Senior Member
Ford has already mentioned removing existing lanes on major streets outside of 212, so I wouldn't consider it exempt.Avenue to Chaplin - which was part of eglintonTOday Phase 1 - was installed in 2024 before Bill 212 was introduced.
Admiral Beez
Superstar
Brother, it’s the volume and unnecessary ”hang on tight” call-outs that’s the issue, not the languages. Just listen to the below.
This cacophony of racket is unnecessary and needlessly assaults the ears and comfort of the riders. My suggestions:
- Omit the "remain seated, hang on" safety call outs entirely.
- Omit the "stand clear of the doors" and keep only the chime. We all know what it means.
- Reduce the station call outs to the bare minimum. Currently we have "next station is X", arriving at X, doors will open on the X". Follow the shorter subway model, with the ML-necessary French add-on.
- But most of all, reduce the volume of all the chimes and announcements. Next time I ride I will check the decibel level, but I definitely had an earache and headache after a half dozen stops.
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