[cplchanb]

Brother, it’s the volume and unnecessary ”hang on tight” call-outs that’s the issue, not the languages. Just listen to the below.

This cacophony of racket is unnecessary and needlessly assaults the ears and comfort of the riders. My suggestions:

1. Omit the "remain seated, hang on" safety call outs entirely.
2. Omit the "stand clear of the doors" and keep only the chime. We all know what it means.
3. Reduce the station call outs to the bare minimum. Currently we have "next station is X", arriving at X, doors will open on the X". Follow the shorter subway model, with the ML-necessary French add-on.
4. But most of all, reduce the volume of all the chimes and announcements. Next time I ride I will check the decibel level, but I definitely had an earache and headache after a half dozen stops.

my bet for 1 and 2 is that they are afraid of potential lawsuits coming their way for people not paying attention and hurting themselves.
i can understand for #2 but #1 is just verbal diarrhea

 

[hawc]

This may have already been posted elsewhere in this 2,000 + page thread, but does anyone have a cutaway / side profile of the entire route relative to the surface so we can see how deep it is at various points?

 

[pmacpherson68]

This may have already been posted elsewhere in this 2,000 + page thread, but does anyone have a cutaway / side profile of the entire route relative to the surface so we can see how deep it is at various points?

 

[MisterF]

Ford has already mentioned removing existing lanes on major streets outside of 212, so I wouldn't consider it exempt.

And the legislation that tried to remove the lanes was struck down in the courts. At least so far. There still hasn't been a ruling on the appeal AFAIK.

 

[Ratazana]

Brother, it’s the volume and unnecessary ”hang on tight” call-outs that’s the issue, not the languages. Just listen to the below.

This cacophony of racket is unnecessary and needlessly assaults the ears and comfort of the riders. My suggestions:

1. Omit the "remain seated, hang on" safety call outs entirely.
2. Omit the "stand clear of the doors" and keep only the chime. We all know what it means.
3. Reduce the station call outs to the bare minimum. Currently we have "next station is X", arriving at X, doors will open on the X". Follow the shorter subway model, with the ML-necessary French add-on.
4. But most of all, reduce the volume of all the chimes and announcements. Next time I ride I will check the decibel level, but I definitely had an earache and headache after a half dozen stops.

I suspect the actual volume is ok. No one is covering their ears because it’s too loud…it’s just the audio crackled due to some frequency issue. It’s like when you stream audio from a source system with the source volume set to max while setting the target system’s audio output to low.

 

[hawc]

I suspect the actual volume is ok. No one is covering their ears because it’s too loud.

Nah, the volume sucks. It IS too loud. I just hope it's not some crazy compliance thing where it has to be that loud for hard of hearing regulations or something stupid like that.

 

[APTA-2048]

Nah, the volume sucks. It IS too loud. I just hope it's not some crazy compliance thing where it has to be that loud for hard of hearing regulations or something stupid like that.

Seems like a weird Metrolinx thing. It's occasionally like this on their buses.

 

[Jonathan's Junction]

Nah, the volume sucks. It IS too loud.

Seems like a weird Metrolinx thing. It's occasionally like this on their buses.

The announcements on the GO busses are at max volume or barely audible. I don't know why this is such a complicated thing to get right. The whole world doesn't need to hear PORCHAINE ARRET......

 

[A 6264]

It's loudest if you're under the raised front/back-facing seats. Door chimes (when they open, NOT close) are far too loud, enough to make people standing at the door jump. There is a quiet continuous beeping during the entire time doors are open, which I've noticed on rare occasions when doors are held open for a minute or more. I don't know why there need to be any door chimes except when doors are closing. What we do get is a "doors are closing" spoken announcement while the doors close, which is really too late because by the time the message is said, doors are already closed. French announcements don't even begin until after doors are closed, so you're completely out of luck if you're following those. There are a lot of things that need fixing!

 

[rbt]

... There is a quiet continuous beeping during the entire time doors are open, which I've noticed on rare occasions when doors are held open for a minute or more. I don't know why there need to be any door chimes except when doors are closing. ...

It helps blind people find the door. The new Line 2 trains will likely have the same feature.

 

[PL1]

It helps blind people find the door. The new Line 2 trains will likely have the same feature.

I wish the chiming would stop (or reduce in frequency) after a reasonable time (like 30s). I was on a train on line 5 that was held at a station for several minutes with the doors open. The constant chiming was quite irritating.

 

[Jonathan's Junction]

The beeping while the doors are open is somewhat common in other parts of the world.

 

[pmacpherson68]

I suspect the actual volume is ok. No one is covering their ears because it’s too loud…it’s just the audio crackled due to some frequency issue. It’s like when you stream audio from a source system with the source volume set to max while setting the target system’s audio output to low.

I think on most of the trains I've ridden on, the volume is at least 25% louder than whats on Line1/Line2. And its so loud that its distorted a lot of time because I dont think the speakers can handle that volume properly. Its very strange that they havent fixed this or the GPS tracking problems given all the months/years of testing they have supposedly been doing. Its almost like they dont care.

 

[pmacpherson68]

I think on most of the trains I've ridden on, the volume is at least 25% louder than whats on Line1/Line2. And its so loud that its distorted a lot of time because I dont think the speakers can handle that volume properly. Its very strange that they havent fixed this or the GPS tracking problems given all the months/years of testing they have supposedly been doing. Its almost like they dont care.

Someone should record the loudness... im sure that it exceeds the recommended safe volumes for public transit in terms of decibels - especially sitting down beneath the speakers or in the alcove parts that I think probably distort and amplify the noise as well.

 

[zang]

It helps blind people find the door. The new Line 2 trains will likely have the same feature.

We should look to Japan for better, less intrusive accessibility (station tunes, bird chirping sounds, etc.) rather than “make it sound like the microwave is done, but louder”