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Well,... your favourite Willowdale Development guy got news,... well, ok,... gossip! I better notify @Northern Light so he doesn't bitc-,.. err, I mean complain,...

You know I think you're awesome...... razzing you periodically for posting etiquette is just a sign of affection. LOL



No Frills will be taking over the former 45,000sqft WholeFoodsMarket retail space at TridelHullmark Centre,... well, at least some of the space, I don't know the size of the incoming NoFrills

Interesting. I hadn't heard about this one, and the demographics for the area seem odd to support this, Food Basics is already across the street. Hmmm

In mid-70's Yonge Sheppard area had Loblaws on Yonge north of Sheppard, Miracle southeast corner of Yonge & Sheppard and then when SheppardCentre opened a Dominion (likely where Winners is now) that only lasted about 1 year!

By 1990s, only Miracle/Metro remains,... then with 2010-2014 redevelopment into Tridel HullmarkCentre Whole Foods Market opened September 2014 - with area monopoly, look busy in front cafe, but supermarket was not busy, couldn't jive the numbers,... always big money loser - I forecasted 2019/2024 closing,...
But Rich Daddy Amazon brought WholeFoodsMarket in 2017,... who saw that coming????

With renovated YongeSheppardCentre, 40,000sqft Longos opened on 2nd floor in July 2019,..... and after many supermarkets bailing at 2nd floor EmeraldPark (green building) 30,000sqft Food Basics opened October 2021. Yonge & Sheppard was only intersection in Toronto with 3 supermarkets within 100m of intersection.

With WholeFoodsMarket closing in August 2025,.... many hoped for FarmBoy as replacement - not likely since FarmBoy and Longos are both owned by Empire. Best chance for FarmBoy would be if Longos bomb and FarmBoy replace Longos at YongeSheppardCentre.

I don't have the numbers for every store, but my impression is that Longos is significantly out performing Farm Boy.

Anyways,.... WholeFoodsMarket 45,000sqft retail space at Tridel HullmarkCentre will be taken over by a Loblaws' NO Frills store,... likely opening end of year? And right now,.

That WF never functioned on a customer level as a 45,000ft2 store, I walked it, I would have guessed 1/2 that. Was it functioning as a commissary for other stores? That's my first thought. That would be the same mistake as McEwan at Yonge/Bloor (Well there were other mistakes there, but I digress, that was one, who the hell puts a commissary at one of the most expensive intersections in the country?)

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- I don't know if NoFrills will take up the entire 45,000sqft - that's insane! Ground floor retail space cost double that of 2nd floor & basement,... I highly doubt NoFrills will be dumb enough to build 45,000sqft store here - Yonge St frontage ground floor rent will be nuts!!! As WholeFoodsMarket shown it's NOT competitive!

Largest NF in the country (That I'm aware of)..... is 55,000ft2.

But that's atypical. A normal, new-build, suburban format is ~40,000ft2

Urban locations are much smaller.

45,000 here would definitely be pushing it. I don't see a compelling reason to do that,

There's a Shoppers across the street, so unless they're at their capacity limits, I don't see moving or setting up a competing pharmacy, but you never know, on the latter, that could be an 'own the market' strategy.

- so even at 30,000sqft a ground floor NoFrills would be paying double the rent vs the 2nd floor 30,000sqft FoodBasics!
- hard to even imagine 30,000sqft,... some NoFrills downtown are around 10,000-15,000sqft compact - which is crazy small.

There are larger NF downtown, but certainly none that exceed 23,000ft2
I can't jive the numbers right now,.. but man,... and those folks at Yonge & Finch - still stuck in Food Desert until large H-Mart opens at M2M - which is taking forever!!!

It is, and meanwhile Galleria is opening a new flagship location on Steeles W, not that far away, imminently.
 
Here’s ground floor layout at Tridel HullmarkCentre,… showing 45,000sqft former WholeFoodsMarket retail space - note: space east of ( / to the right of) RBC was all storage area - so that has loading dock access,..
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I suspect they could do well too be honest even at the full 45K - may take a lot of business from Food Basics. The demographics in the area is a little all over the place - there's high end for sure but also a decent amount of middle / price conscious shoppers who'd prefer something akin to Loblaws / Food Basics.
 
If a No Frills might be too big, what's to stop them from throwing in a Joe Fresh store to fill some of that space? (Merely a brainstorm thought of what Loblaws owns that could fill some space)
 
I can't find any proof that this former WholeFoodsMarket retail space is actually being severed,...
- when Metro brought 2nd floor of EmeraldPark (green building) they included a number of protective severances for Loading Dock area & escalator along with path to entrance on Poyntz - that way Metro has complete control of their entrance! This would appear in Development Applications going through Committee of Adjustment,...
- but when they divide retail space within a Mall, it's often not a formal severance of property or even strata-property

So right now,... it looks like NoFrills will be occupying the entire 45,000sqft former WholeFoodsMarket retail space,... which I think is insane - since Ground Floor retail rent is double that of 2nd floor & basement,... so a 45,000sqft Ground Floor NoFrills will be paying 3 times the rent VS the 30,000sqft 2nd floor FoodBasics across Yonge St! At 45,000sqft this could be a really nice NoFrills with pharmacy, Butcher & Fish counter, rotisserie chicken (likely the only hot-ready made food item!),... and NoFrills reduced PC Optimum is better than FoodBasics Moi Rewards

BTW, the other Willowdale NoFrills at CenterPoint Mall appears to be about 66,000sqft (former Loblaws with some previous Head Office operations above on 2nd floor),.... which is about the size of the new T&T going in at EmpressWalk.
 
I can't find any proof that this former WholeFoodsMarket retail space is actually being severed,...
- when Metro brought 2nd floor of EmeraldPark (green building) they included a number of protective severances for Loading Dock area & escalator along with path to entrance on Poyntz - that way Metro has complete control of their entrance! This would appear in Development Applications going through Committee of Adjustment,...
- but when they divide retail space within a Mall, it's often not a formal severance of property or even strata-property

So right now,... it looks like NoFrills will be occupying the entire 45,000sqft former WholeFoodsMarket retail space,... which I think is insane - since Ground Floor retail rent is double that of 2nd floor & basement,... so a 45,000sqft Ground Floor NoFrills will be paying 3 times the rent VS the 30,000sqft 2nd floor FoodBasics across Yonge St! At 45,000sqft this could be a really nice NoFrills with pharmacy, Butcher & Fish counter, rotisserie chicken (likely the only hot-ready made food item!),... and NoFrills reduced PC Optimum is better than FoodBasics Moi Rewards

BTW, the other Willowdale NoFrills at CenterPoint Mall appears to be about 66,000sqft (former Loblaws with some previous Head Office operations above on 2nd floor),.... which is about the size of the new T&T going in at EmpressWalk.
I have not been to Centrepoint mall in a while.
Another example is when one thinks of RCSS stores, they dedicate a section of the store to Joe Fresh clothing as a one stop shop format.
Does the No Frills @ Centrepoint mall do that?
Maybe Centrepoint mall IS the example of what to expect for a larger No Frills store?
Then again, what is the size of the Dufferin Mall store?
They rent out some of their space to a private independent butcher that has to compete head on with the No Frills Butcher. (er, the No Frills pre packaged meat)
 
I have not been to Centrepoint mall in a while.
Another example is when one thinks of RCSS stores, they dedicate a section of the store to Joe Fresh clothing as a one stop shop format.
Does the No Frills @ Centrepoint mall do that?
Maybe Centrepoint mall IS the example of what to expect for a larger No Frills store?
Then again, what is the size of the Dufferin Mall store?
They rent out some of their space to a private independent butcher that has to compete head on with the No Frills Butcher. (er, the No Frills pre packaged meat)

CenterPointMall NoFrills doesn't sell clothing; they have DryCleaner, Pharmacy, instore butcher & fish counter, and a sort of "NoName Club" section that carries larger quantity packaged stuff like Costco.

DufferinMall NoFrills is about 58,000sqft - ditto for Lansdown & Dundas
 

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