[thettctransitfanatic]

https://www.npr.org/2026/04/06/nx-s1-5775669/trump-iran-war-deadline-press-conference

President Trump repeated threats to Iran during during his Monday press conference, including against Iran's civilian infrastructure if a deal to end the war is not reached by Tuesday night at 8 p.m. ET. Negotiations, he said, must include an open Strait of Hormuz. "Every bridge in Iran will be decimated by 12 o'clock tomorrow night, where every power plant in Iran will be out of business, burning, exploding and never to be used again. I mean complete demolition by 12 o'clock, and it will happen over a period of four hours if we wanted to, we don't want that to happen," Trump told reporters. He added: "We may even get involved with helping them rebuild their nation." After days of flip-flopping messaging, vacillating from demanding Iran open the Strait of Hormuz to telling U.S. allies it's up to them to open it to an Easter Sunday profanity-laced social media post demanding Iran open it, Trump said a successful negotiation would have to include "free traffic of oil." "We have to have a deal that's acceptable to me and part of that deal is going to be, we want free traffic of oil and everything," he said. Asked about his mixed messages about the status of the war, and whether it was winding down or ramping up amid his latest threats, he said: "I don't know. I can't tell. It depends what they do. This is a critical period. They have a period of, well, till tomorrow, at eight o'clock." Trump said he can't discuss a potential ceasefire, but the U.S. has "an active, willing participant on the other side" of negotiations. Asked if he's concerned that bombing of power plants and bridges would amount to war crimes, Trump said, "No. I hope I don't have to do it." He opened the press conference by describing the successful rescue mission for the downed airman over the weekend. Trump spent several minutes describing the rescue mission, calling his decision to authorize the rescue as "risky" and "hard." "But in the U.S. military. We leave no American behind," he said. The president claimed Iran "got lucky" when they took out the U.S. fighter jet. CIA Director John Radcliffe, Defense Secretary Pete Hegseth and Joint Chiefs of Staff Chairman Gen. Dan Caine all recounted the rescue operation at the press conference — Trump's first since the U.S. and Israel launched a war with Iran more than a month ago.

 

[lenaitch]

He can most certainly try.

The moment he does, the US would be at Defcon 1, Russia and China would be readying it's forces while painting the US with targets.

Trump is "special" but he's not dumb enough to turn the US into a smoking crater.

As well, I can't see US officials going along with the use of nuclear weapons.

It's an interesting thought exercise, but if Trump tried to order nuclear weapons in a non-defensive act, I suspect many in the chain of command (the ones they haven't yet fired) might dust off their oath plaques.

 

[Richard White]

It's an interesting thought exercise, but if Trump tried to order nuclear weapons in a non-defensive act, I suspect many in the chain of command (the ones they haven't yet fired) might dust off their oath plaques.

Indeed.

To use the Nuremburg Trials as an example, just following orders isn't justification for crimes against humanity.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

I didn’t mean to be so alarmist in what I last posted here, as it likely causes anxiety and doom to those that have read it…as it does with me when when someone else’s posts this stuff about this. I do try to keep a positive outlook on things…but admittedly takes beating when dealing with a volatile deranged entity who is increasingly more capable doing the unthinkable when things don’t go his way. So my apologies if this is causing anyone distress by posting what I did on this.

 

[adma]

A real question is that if Trump actually *resorts* to nukes, what are we going to think of--and how are we going to handle--anyone who still defends him *then*.

Essentially, this could be a chain reaction en route to all sorts of anarchy and atrocity, domestic and international. And the billionaires are going to be even more "oh, cr@p" eager to retreat into their bunkers, in the vain hope that they can run *and* hide from what awaits.

 

[Richard White]

A real question is that if Trump actually *resorts* to nukes, what are we going to think of--and how are we going to handle--anyone who still defends him *then*.

Essentially, this could be a chain reaction en route to all sorts of anarchy and atrocity, domestic and international. And the billionaires are going to be even more "oh, cr@p" eager to retreat into their bunkers, in the vain hope that they can run *and* hide from what awaits.

IF that occurred you would likely see Israel supporting the US and that's it.

Most other nations would cut ties and likely sever diplomatic relations with the US. You may even see immediate travel restrictions on US Nationals such as Visas along with involuntary removals of US citizens abroad.

Unless Iran struck first, I can see most of the world (including those with a nuclear arsenal) declaring the US committed crimes against humanity.

Simply put, it would be the end of the US as we know it.

 

[adma]

IF that occurred you would likely see Israel supporting the US and that's it.

Most other nations would cut ties and likely sever diplomatic relations with the US. You may even see immediate travel restrictions on US Nationals such as Visas along with involuntary removals of US citizens abroad.

Unless Iran struck first, I can see most of the world (including those with a nuclear arsenal) declaring the US committed crimes against humanity.

Simply put, it would be the end of the US as we know it.

But I'm not even talking about nation states; I'm talking about the citizenry. Because a nuclear attack would be a line not crossed since 1945. The reality is going to be unfathomable, in a "sh!t just got real" way--we're no longer talking about video-game or disaster-movie scenarios. There's going to be a whole lot of "uh-oh, what did we just do" leading to sober second thoughts. (Yeah, I know, Trump-style Mafioso-cum-domestic-abuser logic would be that only the recipient of the treatment ought to have sober second thoughts.)

It might put new, Civil War-style dimension to the "end of the US as we know it" scenario. Like, the US is not only going to be declared a terrorist state, it's going to immolate.

 

[zang]

IF that occurred you would likely see Israel supporting the US and that's it.

Though the Israeli government might support it, I don't know that the Israeli public would be so keen on nukes being used so close to home, no matter if it were in the aid of attacking Iran. And sooner or later Bibi's gonna lose coalition.

Most other nations would cut ties and likely sever diplomatic relations with the US. You may even see immediate travel restrictions on US Nationals such as Visas along with involuntary removals of US citizens abroad.

I'm not so sure about that. I could see smaller authoritarian nations seeing it as an opportunity to cozy up to what is (still at this time) a major superpower to gain favour and prop up their own economies.

Unless Iran struck first, I can see most of the world (including those with a nuclear arsenal) declaring the US committed crimes against humanity.

It only means anything if prosecutions happen. And as we've seen before (George W), decisions handed down at The Hague aren't stopping him from painting mediocre portraits in a luxurious retirement. Hell, Bibi and Putin both have ICC warrants out for them, yet they're still free. You've gotta get them first, and there'll always be people who can be convinced, extorted or bribed enough to keep that from happening. And with the fear of nuclear reprisal, who's gonna be the one to do the capturing.

The US will only change if its people change it, something seemingly more and more distant with each power grab.

Simply put, it would be the end of the US as we know it.

The US died when Citizens United was passed. They were no longer the democratic "shining beacon on a hill", but three corporations in a suit with an American flag pin on the lapel.

 

[Richard White]

But I'm not even talking about nation states; I'm talking about the citizenry. Because a nuclear attack would be a line not crossed since 1945. The reality is going to be unfathomable, in a "sh!t just got real" way--we're no longer talking about video-game or disaster-movie scenarios. There's going to be a whole lot of "uh-oh, what did we just do" leading to sober second thoughts. (Yeah, I know, Trump-style Mafioso-cum-domestic-abuser logic would be that only the recipient of the treatment ought to have sober second thoughts.)

It might put new, Civil War-style dimension to the "end of the US as we know it" scenario. Like, the US is not only going to be declared a terrorist state, it's going to immolate.

Indeed.

Any unprovoked offensive Nuclear attack by the US would annihilate the NYSE and Nasdaq almost immediately.

The US Dollar would likely lose almost all value in very short order as nations distance themselves.

It would kill the US Economy and in doing so impact every American Citizen from Bozeman to Mozambique.

That alone would make Americans turn on Trump to the point where the Mussolini or JFK options become realistic.

 

[adma]

Indeed.

Any unprovoked offensive Nuclear attack by the US would annihilate the NYSE and Nasdaq almost immediately.

The US Dollar would likely lose almost all value in very short order as nations distance themselves.

It would kill the US Economy and in doing so impact every American Citizen from Bozeman to Mozambique.

That alone would make Americans turn on Trump to the point where the Mussolini or JFK options become realistic.

But also turn on each other in a way that'd make the breakup of Yugoslavia look mild.

 

[Richard White]

But also turn on each other in a way that'd make the breakup of Yugoslavia look mild.

I'm hoping for more of a Romania style situation.

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

Why is everyone talking about the fictional scenario of US dropping nukes on Iran? It's not going to happen. Can we move on?

 

[zang]

Why is everyone talking about the fictional scenario of US dropping nukes on Iran? It's not going to happen. Can we move on?

Trump is demanding Iran forswear nuclear weapons and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a critical oil transit waterway. He said: "The entire country can be taken out in one night, and that night might be tomorrow night."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-iran-could-be-taken-out-tuesday-night-2026-04-06/

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will,"

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can...

truthsocial.com

Ten years ago, with an arguably less empowered, less maniacal, more mentally fit Trump, commanding a military with far fewer sycophants in positions of power:

"“Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can’t we use them,” Scarborough said on his “Morning Joe” program."

Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC

Trump asked a foreign policy advisor why the U.S. can't use nuclear weapons, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough says, citing an unnamed source.

www.cnbc.com

He's restarted nuclear testing and let nuclear treaties lapse, and you're so sure he has zero intent on using so much as a tactical nuke? What makes you think this narcissistic mentally unfit tool who's spent his life lying and extorting his way out of everything from paying trades workers to superseding congress doesn't think he has the ability to somehow justify their use to the rest of the world?

 

[Full Metal Junkie]

Trump is demanding Iran forswear nuclear weapons and reopen the Strait of Hormuz, a critical oil transit waterway. He said: "The entire country can be taken out in one night, and that night might be tomorrow night."

https://www.reuters.com/world/us/trump-says-iran-could-be-taken-out-tuesday-night-2026-04-06/

"A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will,"

Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)

A whole civilization will die tonight, never to be brought back again. I don’t want that to happen, but it probably will. However, now that we have Complete and Total Regime Change, where different, smarter, and less radicalized minds prevail, maybe something revolutionarily wonderful can...

truthsocial.com

Ten years ago, with an arguably less empowered, less maniacal, more mentally fit Trump, commanding a military with far fewer sycophants in positions of power:

"“Several months ago, a foreign policy expert on the international level went to advise Donald Trump. And three times [Trump] asked about the use of nuclear weapons. Three times he asked at one point if we had them why can’t we use them,” Scarborough said on his “Morning Joe” program."

Trump asks why US can't use nukes: MSNBC

Trump asked a foreign policy advisor why the U.S. can't use nuclear weapons, MSNBC's Joe Scarborough says, citing an unnamed source.

www.cnbc.com

He's restarted nuclear testing and let nuclear treaties lapse, and you're so sure he has zero intent on using so much as a tactical nuke? What makes you think this narcissistic mentally unfit tool who's spent his life lying and extorting his way out of everything from paying trades workers to superseding congress doesn't think he has the ability to somehow justify their use to the rest of the world?

It's a moot point. They're not going to use nukes. Don't let the baseless scaremongering get to you.

 

[Richard White]

It's a moot point. They're not going to use nukes. Don't let the baseless scaremongering get to you.

If this was Bush, Clinton, Biden or Obama no I would agree.

Trump is one disapproving remark away from opening silos.