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    Toronto Toronto | Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 1) | 231m | 70s | Menkes | a—A

    Well if you don't like bland, featureless point towers, then why don't you just leave Toronto!?!? Of course I'm mocking the "you're either support mediocre filler or you're against Toronto" charge. Some on this forum race to the ramparts to defend the mushrooming cityscape of supersize generic...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    Of course - but I wonder what makes the product all be so similar - is it that it's cheaper to build & easier to lease (or in the case of condos, sell) if they are built to a specific floor-plate type, cladding, height & so forth? 16 York, Telus, RBC, LCBO- this it the commercial typology I'm...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    And I would argue that cities that have rebuilt since being destroyed in WWII (Berlin, London, Dresden, Rotterdam) for example have built higher quality and more humane contemporary architecture and cities in the 21st century than say, Asian cities. This is not about looking at those cities with...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    Specifically, there is lots of International Style still being built in Europe—inserted into local contexts that are normally quite different from ours in the first place Thank you for attempting to engage in in a real conversation with me with one counterpoint argument. The remainder of your...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    Please don't get me wrong- I think all of those firms have done a lot of great work - especially at the institutional scale. I guess what I'm wondering about is the "sameness" to the culture of design especially as it manifests at the larger scale buildings mushrooming across the city... There...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    "it's only in Toronto that we get bland buildings" Never said that. "everywhere else is better than us" Never said that "no-one else gets dull buildings" Never said that "here's nothing un-noteworthy in Europe" Never said that If you're going to respond to my "argument" (it wasn't an argument -...
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    Toronto Toronto | 16 York | 154.83m | 32s | Cadillac Fairview | a—A

    Yet here we are in Toronto (50 years after this film skewered the blandness and conformity of the generic cityscape) building out "Playtime" in South Core and the Eastern Waterfront. I've always wondered if the generation of architects who (still) wield power and influence in Toronto (your...
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    Toronto Toronto | QueenChurch | 185.9m | 57s | Tridel | Kirkor

    Dear baby jesus - hear our prayers & deliver us from another set of towering, rectilinear window-wall twins at Queen and Church.
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    Toronto Toronto | 191 Bay | 301.74m | 64s | QuadReal | Hariri Pontarini

    You really have to give it to Toronto's architects, developers, planners and regulators. Together, they've managed to capture our civic vision of mediocrity in one XL-sized anticlimax.
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    Toronto Toronto | 100 Queens Quay at Sugar Wharf | 117.34m | 25s | Menkes | B+H

    So much for the waterfront having exceptional architecture. Should we just call this "SouthCore East"?
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    Amazon Second HQ

    I think DC or one of its outlying counties with lower taxes will get HQ2. Bezos is going to be spending half his time in DC anyway.
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    Toronto Toronto | Via Bloor | 138.37m | 46s | Tridel | a—A

    I think this is a(nother) missed opportunity. The building should be a landmark/gateway that announces your arrival to downtown Toronto from the east & DVP. The towers and podium look bland - all they announce is Tridel's sad lack of civic imagination .
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    Toronto Toronto | Maverick | 154.53m | 49s | Empire | Arcadis

    The restaurants are mediocre at best, but what is going to replace them on the street? If this ends up being just another couple of banal, 40 storey towers plopped on top on the death mask of some old commercial building with some generic coffee chain and a Shoppers as the retail (the Toronto...
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    Toronto Toronto | East Harbour | 214.2m | 65s | Cadillac Fairview | Adamson

    I am not getting my hopes up that this site will somehow be different & won't be slammed by bland generic Toronto clunkers. The whole waterfront is turning out to be just a bunch of "placeholder" boxes lined up in front of our eyes. :/
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    Toronto Toronto | Sugar Wharf Condominiums (Phase 1) | 231m | 70s | Menkes | a—A

    Is there no incentive for developers to build anything beyond the bare basics: condo point tower residential and featureless glass-box commercial? This is about as generic as it gets. We paid for all that investment in public space - shouldn't these developers pay for better architecture and...
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    Toronto Toronto | The One | 328.4m | 91s | Mizrahi Developments | Foster + Partners

    I wish Toronto would have a legit apple store with some cool minimalist stand-alone architecture - not something shoehorned into the podium of a condo.
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    Toronto Toronto | 101 Yorkville | 18.9m | 4s | First Capital | NEUF

    Since Chanel, Louboutin, Brunello Cucinelli, Celine & Jimmy Choo are all rumoured to be forming a high-end retail colony on Yorkville, it looks like this property is being redeveloped to accommodate more and larger spaces for high-end brands. Sad to lose one of the more interesting buildings -...
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    Toronto Toronto | 88 Bathurst | 68.3m | 17s | Hines | 3XN

    Three horsemen of the archi-pocalypse: Kirkor, Graziani & Corazza, Page+Steele ... any other offenders?
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    Toronto Toronto | Monde | 149.95m | 44s | Great Gulf | Moshe Safdie

    Exactly my point above. As a short term investment maybe... but if you are planning on making one of these condos your medium to long term home you should prepare for the window wall systems to fail. And if you are one of the owners left holding the bag when they do, you'll likely be on the hook...

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