Also, those are condos which are pre-financed with down payments. They arent predominately spec built. On CIBC Square, I wouldn't give the developers of CIBC too much credit ... It's a rectangle with a few jogs and the diagrid isnt structural. But if you like the design and think it was an...

I see where you are going, but I disagree with this on the office side. I look at it this way: Average rates at WTC in NYC --> $80 PSF (based on SquareFoot.com); Average in YYZ Core AAA --> $35 PSF. If A office trades at a cap rate of 5%, that's $1100 of incremental development profit. Now...

Also, our rents are nowhere near what they are in NYC or Toronto. 425 Park in New York is getting $300 PSF from Citadel. The top of CIBC Square is leasing for like $60.

It is the first review of a Rezoning application. Generally interiors aren't even remotely resolved at this stage. Why bother picking trees if the City is going to come back and say they dont even support the use or density and the City hasn't had it's open Houses? This will change through the...

Looks way better though ...

I'm not sure they will be able to do this and still elevator the tower properly.

I actually think a big issue is going to be elevators. They probably cant chop width without chopping height. The whole north wall is elevators. Each elevator they cut chops off ~40,000 SF of leasable area service. I suppose they could move towards a traditional core on low-rise, but it is...

I agree that with the North side needing to be refined. I don't think the bigger tower should go in the middle. It would look a bit like giving the finger to the City... The shadow studies also suggest that the west office tower is *just* scraping Clarence Square with incremental shadow ---...

Not the square, per se, the southeast of the block at the forecourt of Roy Thomson.

Based on the shadow study I would say Davis Pecault Square which is protected in TOCore and Bill 108.

So, acknowledging that one needs to provide access to the 18,000 or so office workers and, at points, provide a usable passage for a massive crowd from Roger's, how else could one design this?

Question: legally, does the City NEED to approve increasing density? Does someone have the RIGHT to rezone?

What would you like to see?

According to Novae Reus this was narrowly supported at DRP, 4-3 with the chair having to break the deadlock. Planning was generally not supportive because of the incremental shadow and that this would be the widest building in the entire downtown core. No details on the conditions of approval...

The plans (not the render...) do show some pretty substantial retail in the winter garden. I took the plans and crappily colorized the retail at-grade in orange and the retail above the winter garden in blue. On your second comment, the entire second and third floor off the park is retail.

Plans show a multi-folded bronze-colored solid aluminum panel system with uplighting. Goes from ground through the entire interior including the fitness centre, ballroom, which could look good. The north brick was awful so will definitely be a major upgrade.

Also, the City doesnt own any air rights in tje rail corridor. CN/TTR do above 9M and Metrolinx does below 9M. And they have their own stuff going on ... like a 10 year electrification plan!

Unanimous support. Some comments on public realm materiality. Spoke to some folks coming out.

@ProjectEnd I got you fam.