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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    There are definitely parallels. The principal difference being that Basic Training wants to achieve a kind of group synergy. Caritas (or long-term rehab) just wants to strip away false pride and replace it with something a bit more real. For example, when I went in at 18 if asked who I was, I...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Oh, dude. You have no idea :) Think about it this way: many (not all) addicts have experienced some measure of emotional trauma. And then, they've used that hyper-sensitivity and understanding of feelings to manipulate others for the survival and protection of their addiction. When that...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Well, I think any counselor who knows WTF is going on would use the same tactic. I'd like to hope so, anyways. I have the horrible visions of GreeneStone saying "But, don't you think to be an effective mayor, sobriety is... etc". Bah. Treating him like a grown man who's made a few mistakes, as...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Generally my own tactic has been to strip away everything that gave a sense of false identity. Job. Hobbies. Everything. Those will be important (and necessary) one day, but to confront behaviours, it has to be done with the view that none of that stuff matters. Only you, and what you do. That's...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    For what it's worth as a (former) addiction counselor, and a pretty hardcore one at that, I concur. If Rob ended up at Caritas while I was there (or for that matter, one of the other 'old-time' counselors), the first thing would have been to strip every distraction. You can watch the 6...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    You'll pray for duckies when I'm through with ya! Well, that or I'll look really dumb. Wouldn't be the first time.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I'll take that bet! For optimism's sake! Now I got a horse in this race!
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    My wife is the same. Knitters gonna knits. It's like crack to them. Wait... Bad analogy.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ This.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Yeah, I apologize, I don't mean to malign it in general. The older groups (I.e established) are much better. I left out the context (was on my phone and I type less) -- being asked to to for my input at a new group a few times. It was a disaster. I called out half the room for being on the...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Being let out to go to AA? Yeah. I'd say that's pretty damn weird for an inpatient. Anything is possible I suppose, but it's a pretty big wtf to me.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Pretty normal. Must residential rehabs consider themselves lived variations on the 12 steps. A meeting would be superfluous. Like ordering pizza to be delivered at a mcdonalds. Even if a rehab did have them as part of their kitchen-sink strategy, taking someone external to one while in...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    By any chance is this off Keele?
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Shh.... don't tell anyone but Caritas had two houses right around there for years and years. TWO houses. With 7 or 8, fully adult and usually pissed off (since they were at Caritas) addicts.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Can we NOT post Wormington articles here? I can't stop myself from reading them and I really don't need to be this outraged so close to bed time. Is there ANY behavior that can't be legitimized because of gas plants?
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Agreed. It was silly of her to tweet that, but everyone knows kids do silly things. Ultimately, if he's a medical professional, as much as it may burn him inside and he may want to tell someone, that's what you sign up for. How I wish someone had seen RoFo trying to nutkick a wall in public...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    The original post mentioned a rooming house. I don't want to be pedantic about it, but I'm going to 'cuz why not. 30 Maynard is not a rooming house, it's a boarding home. It's a bigger difference than you'd think. That being said, you mentioned that it was a long time ago, so in some...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Pathetic. Sad making.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Sorry for the long quote, forums are murder on phones. In terms of what you say about rehabs, you're absolutely right -- that's how it SHOULD work, generally. Of course keeping in mind that rehab is not a mode or modality. It just means a place. There are no rules. There are a hundred different...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I was thinking more along the lines of pre-authorized payments that might have been in Rob's name. Also, I have a strong feeling that money is very important to the Fords and that they don't share their financial situations. I get the feeling there is competition on that level. What's...

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