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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Yeah, um, yes. MANY private programs up-sell you. Sorry. It's called complimentary care. Independent professionals offered as a 3rd party parallel treatment not covered. Independent contractors, and the rehab gets a 10-20% cut, the money is paid directly to the independent professionals.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I'm correcting myself -- crossroads is apparently a non-profit, not private. Huh.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I'm *definitely* not trying to defend what Rofo said about 100k -- but I just wanted to point out that it is not unheard of. While many private programs will quote between 25 - 35k for a basic 1 month program, these private rehabs will also tack on additional costs (massage, reiki, personal...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Yes, very possible. And "babysitting" is the correct word. I mean, I even thought about doing something like this w/ a counselor friend when I got sick of non-profit wages. Integrity (for lack of a better word) kept me from doing it. But for people in desperate situation, ask the family for 10k...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Ha! That's the damn truth.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Honestly, no. I actually thought I knew where he was (if indeed he was in rehab) for a while up until this morning. The pieces seemed to fit for me, but I was afraid to ask because if he was there my head would explode (as I would have seen it as a horrible betrayal of what the place stood for...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    He's not there. I am in regular contact with staff there.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    He is not at Bridgeway.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Or the inverse. I've sent people to places like Bridgeway when they were contemplative, but not ready for the real thing yet. It plants the seed. Starts to cut the high with a bit of self-awareness (since many-- not all, but many -- people I've seen in day programs/outpatient are still using).
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    All the rehab talk about what is and what is not rehab is going to give me an aneurysm. Rehab is a place, not a methodology. In a therapeutic community, you have no contact with the outside world for at least 1-5 months, depending on the program. Go to palm partners rehab-resort-spa and enough...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I got the Robocall, too. For the love of dog, I urge you all to press "1" for "I'm coming". If all of non-ford nation did that, and their survey returned that 5 million people were going to show up... well, let the hilarity ensue.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Ok, fair enough. Haven't used an iphone in a while. I edited my post to get a bit more to my point: TA: My point being, the initial 40 second call is suspicious, and sets the trail, but the popo probably had no expectation they'd recover that. But what they might get, is a recorded conversation...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Yeah, precisely. And let's not forget the envelopes. Nobody can tell me that any non-crooked cop wouldn't be doing backflips to get to the contents/source/players involved in those envelopes.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I've never been under the impression that the data warrant had anything to do with the expectation that Lisi was recording his own calls. Most crime/plans/etc just does not happen over the phone. I seriously don't think there was the expectation that he had a homebrew call recording. On the...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    If Det. Giroux/ TPS is using Brazen 2 as a heatsink to deflect from a another spinoff investigation that includes trafficking and organized crime and actually comes up with charges, I will personally lead the petition to have Union Station (sorry DMW), my second born child, a sports arena of his...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Also, Ford is going to mess up again soon. With the ITO releases and all of this going down, he's going to be a pariah for even street level dealers. Guessing the "Fucking Idiot" isn't welcome at Elena's right now. But an addict gotta addict, which means he's going to be erratic.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I don't mean this post to sound optimistic, because it's not, but... ...there is something so wrong with this whole scenario and I can't help but think that there is an awful lot we don't know about what's going on. Some things that still stand out to me: - The "disconnect" between...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    whatchootalkinboutwillis? A viable alternative? The thing I just scraped off of my shoe is a viable alternative.
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    Just putting this out there, but it nags at me a little, possibly a dribble of stupid optimism: The Articles all mention extortion. Full stop. Nothing else. No drugs/trafficking, no abuse of office, no "heinous other charge from the 6th dimension that dare not be spoken about". It opens...
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    Rob Ford's Toronto

    I de-lurked again, just to high five you for this.

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