Just bear in mind that it's not the disaster per se, but the spotlight being on the disaster, that matters.

Not in regular service anyway… I do see the appeal of upgrading to GO service standards as something of a diversion route should Milton and Midtown be built out in a way that gives metrolinx operational control. That lakeshore midtown routing is… very crayon friendly. It genuinely LOOKS great...

Its been done in some European jurisdictions without collapsing the system. Not every European practice makes operations easier.

There were tracks in place on much of the corridor into the 90s Although I will say… I’m not opposed to an elevated or surface LRT row directly parallel to park side drive… I dropped my concept in the fantasy thread the other day, but my own inclination is this is better an LRT with a transfer...

I was playing with options for the south end of a Jane LRT, alternatives to branching the Ontario Line West and how to tie a Crosstown / Kitchener corridor interchange station and ended up with something I quite like... Should almost certainly be extended down to the OL proper and I can argue...

King/Coronation are basically stable low density, high value, residential communities (and Water has a pile of floodplain issues). Hespeler Road is a growth corridor. King in Preston also would need some combination of streetcar style ops and directing through traffic onto basically residential...

Concur on the BRT costs being pushed up. If you read between the lines on their option development it's pretty clear that the shortened LRT options were never meant to be very serious, and appears that the BRT is predicated on using basically the approved corridor, not the highway lanes +...

That was certainly my thought in suggesting the weird 561 variant that would end up creating a single seat link between Bramalea and the other two stations... originally I was thinking that maybe the 502 should eb run east to Bramalea once the LRT opens, but even aside from overservicing...

Has anyone seen or heard discussion of something like a 'diagonal' Zum or express? It just struck me that you'd get a pretty coherent patch for a lot of connectivity issues with GO and the initial LRT by extending the 561 to Bramalea Terminal and merging it with the 115

My thought on a Lawrence East LRT is that it's best done as an escape hatch for the capacity disconnect between Scarborough and the rest of Eglinton; build and operate it as a through running branch.

Not really any reason not to sign it that way now. Although I wonder if it’s statement that there ISNT an appetite for making Ottawa the target

Almost certainly end up being just a bus lane or directly tied to the Sheppard line imo.

Ultimately I still think this is what's going on with the tunnel; its a distraction to draw criticism away from all his more ordinarily idiotic populist projects.

My take is that this isn't sensibly a standalone line, but does make some sense as a Kingston Road/Waterfront East through route extended to Kennedy meeting EELRT: Not much of an LRT, basically all on street, but it can quite reasonably duck onto the Stoufville ROW for Kennedy access. And...

I'm inclined to think that one of midtown or 407 will be coming as well, and have to imagine there's a very real conversation about tradeoffs happening somewhere... Though at the end of the day it's pretty easy to picture a Bramalea - Unionville light metro with Ontario Line branding as a better...

I’d suggest it’s also very possible the high end HBC stores were their top performers for being the best implementation of their model, rather than an indication that was the correct model to follow. But yeah, even in the recent past the Zellers launch should have been closer to a full rebadge...

Anybody got the actual docs saved? looks like archive skipped the pdfs…

Honestly, while I would have been OK with the airport this is FINE... but really should also be the end of the attempts to shut down Billy Bishop, and does beg for a serious look at what we intend for GA (Oshawa seems fine to me on that point).

This is basically why I'm not all that comfortable explicitly saying 'streetcar' in a definitive way on this service... As much as the Palmer segment would be problematic grade separation and automation would go a LONG way to addressing how painfully peaky the demand is going to be.

I was going to say... I see NOTHING about this that is preferable to building some kind of local fixed guideway system, be it APM, Streetcar or some gadetbahn. Even on the basis of transfer reduction this doesn't really get all, or even the most significant, destinations within walking distance...