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    I am done with this forum and thread.
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    So everything you do must have a utility? do you need to buy a Porsche when Chevy would suffice. or might as well public transit. If you are asking if i need a gun, NO. i don't need it. Its my discretionary expenditure where I like and want to blow money. An no one has any right to tell...
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    Why is it generosity on your part? Are you personally paying billions in compensation? buy backs are a scam to confiscate legal property from legal owners. People with similar thinking would do well in USSR with such authoritarian tendencies. But they would need a time machine to go back to...
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    Oh my god. Are you real. what about the enjoyment which it bring to literally millions of Canadians who enjoy target sports? Also Olympic shooter. You do realize it is an international sport. right?
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    When you have no rational arguments left, i guess its time for personal insults. I compared panel van to ar-15 not handguns. Oh Really? Check out Colt 1911, one of the most common pistol. As the name implies it was in production in 1911. Can you not simply fact check before you spew...
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    very very different rounds. .303 is very powerful round .223 not so much. Again relatively speaking.
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    Lethal, it very subjective. White panel van can be lethal. In Canada white penal van have killed infinitely more Canadian than an AR-15, relatively. I reckon you think Ar-15 is lethal. It all depends on who is using it. No Law abiding Canadian has ever killed anybody with an AR-15. Think...
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    sarcasm is lost on you.
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    What a great idea to threaten millions of law abiding Canadian with criminal prosecution? Let's not focus on the root cause of the gun violence and just go on some tangent to make an Orwellian dystonian version of Canada based on your impulses on what people can and cannot do to enjoy their...
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    I agree with you on grandfathering, it a bad idea. Its delayed confiscation. We should be able to pass the full use of it to the next generation as family heirloom. I truly believe that you have no idea on the scale of recreational firearms industry in Canada. Its a multi billion dollar...
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    Yeah anything does not impact you any only other is faux outrage. The policy proposal from you totally untenable and quiet lunatic. Large number of affected parties will not agree with your draconian abuse of power. By your logic federal government can just make anything illegal and...
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    Lol . So you intend to amend millions of legal gun owners criminals by stroke of a pen for following the law? And deny them the property right which are enshrined in the charter of rights. So $10 billion worth of property should be confiscated without compensation. I wonder if this does not...
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    Both firearms you have posted are non restricted. It mean they are not registered. Also they won't fall under Liberal AR-15 ban It is very ironic that Ruger Mini 14, referenced above, which was used in Montreal poly massacre was still left as non restricted. The function and cartridge for...
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    Now that's a reasonable policy. Function not appearance that matters. But do you know how many semi autos are in Canada. When long gun registry was in place. There close to 8 million. I would say half are semi auto. 4-5 million at what 1-3k a piece is not small sum. That's what is required to...
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    Canada is county with rule of law. Society is based on rules based system of governance and same applies to justice system. Property right are protected under charter of rights and cannot be infringed upon. By passing such laws to confiscate legal property would be challenged under the charter...
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    But you have to agree that its lazy policy and virure signalling. I fyou are choosing between the two, hand gun ban should come first. It kills 50-80 people a years vs AR-15 which has not been used to kill anybody in the last 50 years. Prioritization. You have to have clear priorities...
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    Because it cost money. do you want to spend hundreds of million on a problem which does not exist or health care. There are cancer patients which are actually dying in this country because province wont approve live saving drug which may cost 80K. Whereas we are prepared to throw 250+mm on Ar...
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    Yes I am sure. Potential but no history. Also there are many more types of guns with potential. Also white panel van or trucks also have a potential to create massive casualties. If you really wanna ban guns, start with ban handgun and see what impact does it have. At least we know...
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    Agree nobody NEEDS it. Also no body needs F-150. Spending 250mm+ which can easily balloon to $1B+ to solve a problem which dos not exist is not prudent policy. Spending that money $1B to create jobs and livelihood for troubled youth would go a long way in saving lives and improving lives...
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    The point I am trying to make is that Liberal firearms policy misdirected. banning gun from law abiding legal owner wont solve anything. law abiding owners will hand in their guns. Do you think the gang bangers will? Also the on Ar-15, it has not been used to kill anybody in Canada Ever...

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