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As per this Renx article:


Oikoi is pursuing a six-property assembly in Parkdale which includes the lot at 16 Tyndall. While the other properties are not identified in the article, I infer the following:

(aerial pic)

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As you can see these are six contiguous properties inclusive of the one we know Oikoi owns, and none of the adjacent multi-res sites make any particular sense here.

Streetview:

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Comments:

Most neighbouring multi-res sites are in the 7-9s range, but the tallest on Tyndall is something closer to 18s. I would expect an ask in that range here given that it seems likely there would be some heritage retention which while adding costs would serve to conceal any massing from street level nicely.

I would add here, none of the 'heritage' is listed/designated, which has the virtue of giving Oikoi some flexibility here, but I think it would look good on them to preserve 2-4 facades and 1-2 returns, and build in behind. That's up to them, of course.

There are baked-in setbacks on the other neighbours properties (surface parking of ~13M and ~11M, this will be adequate at lower elevations, but may or may not require LDAs once you get to tower height, depending on massing and tapering.
 
I would expect an ask in that range here given that it seems likely there would be some heritage retention which while adding costs would serve to conceal any massing from street level nicely.
That was what came to mind when I saw the street view of the site.

For additional context, the site is located just northwest of Dufferin Street and the Gardiner Expressway:
 
As per this Renx article:


Oikoi is pursuing a six-property assembly in Parkdale which includes the lot at 16 Tyndall. While the other properties are not identified in the article, I infer the following:

(aerial pic)

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As you can see these are six contiguous properties inclusive of the one we know Oikoi owns, and none of the adjacent multi-res sites make any particular sense here.

Streetview:

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Comments:

Most neighbouring multi-res sites are in the 7-9s range, but the tallest on Tyndall is something closer to 18s. I would expect an ask in that range here given that it seems likely there would be some heritage retention which while adding costs would serve to conceal any massing from street level nicely.

I would add here, none of the 'heritage' is listed/designated, which has the virtue of giving Oikoi some flexibility here, but I think it would look good on them to preserve 2-4 facades and 1-2 returns, and build in behind. That's up to them, of course.

There are baked-in setbacks on the other neighbours properties (surface parking of ~13M and ~11M, this will be adequate at lower elevations, but may or may not require LDAs once you get to tower height, depending on massing and tapering.
If you include 28 Springhurst, its 7 properties and I think over 20 rental units. Per Sweeny and co, they're gonna shoot for 25 floors. They are good at tying up land for long periods of time to minimize capital risk, but 25 here is a stretch. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7268269571051065345/




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If you include 28 Springhurst, its 7 properties and I think over 20 rental units. Per Sweeny and co, they're gonna shoot for 25 floors. They are good at tying up land for long periods of time to minimize capital risk, but 25 here is a stretch. https://www.linkedin.com/feed/update/urn:li:activity:7268269571051065345/




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I concur that 25 floors would be a very aggressive ask here.
 

Great contribution, thanks!

Looking at the massing, the streetwall looks defensible. It does, however, imply there will be no attempt at any heritage facade retention or recreation.

To get that height, they may be relying on what the asks will be on some other proposals coming to the apartment block. Still a bit of a tough sell across from lowrise neighbourhoods.
 
I’m just impressed they could convince so many investors to sell considering the capital gains. I think of the 6 properties they have tied up 5 are rental.
 
Great contribution, thanks!

Looking at the massing, the streetwall looks defensible. It does, however, imply there will be no attempt at any heritage facade retention or recreation.

To get that height, they may be relying on what the asks will be on some other proposals coming to the apartment block. Still a bit of a tough sell across from lowrise neighbourhoods.
Revised drawings (again from linkedin). looks like they are only building on three parcels, maybe an LDA for the rest? Pretyy tight squeeze.
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Revised drawings (again from linkedin). looks like they are only building on three parcels, maybe an LDA for the rest? Pretyy tight squeeze.

Another great contribution! Thanks.

The height ask has dropped to 16s.

Floor plate of 575m2!

Wow is that tiny.

@ProjectEnd 's take must be sought.
 
575sm isn't unprecedented, but definitely on the... small end. I believe 5-15 Raglan is in that range for one.

1486 Bathurst is the smallest one I'm aware of, at 490:


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Smallest I know of is 1728 Bloor at 392sm. Another small one is Graywood's 29-39 Pleasant at 614sm.

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Another great contribution! Thanks.

The height ask has dropped to 16s.

Floor plate of 575m2!

Wow is that tiny.

@ProjectEnd 's take must be sought.
Technically 5.5m is the OBC minimum from a lot line so it could be that this is putting great faith in Ontario's insipid (but on-brand) new move to gut all local policy "beyond the OBC", as announced on Monday:

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Another small one is Graywood's 29-39 Pleasant at 614sm.


Technically 5.5m is the OBC minimum from a lot line so it could be that this is putting great faith in Ontario's insipid (but on-brand) new move to gut all local policy "beyond the OBC", as announced on Monday:

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Assuming it were permitted, does it make sense to you from an economic perspective (first blush obviously) ?
 

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