[haltcatchfire]

I've always thought that the epicentre of 17th should be further east, or at least that there should be a second epicentre.

To me, the blocks between 17th Ave & 13th Ave, and 4th St & 1st St are ripe for redevelopment because of the incredible central location. Here you are within walking distance of 17th Ave (W), the Mission/4th St (S/SW), the Elbow River/Lindsay Park/MNP (S/SE), the Entertainment District/Stampede Grounds (E), Central Memorial Park (N), 10th Ave (N), E end of Downtown (arguably the better part of Downtown) (N), and then East Village/Central Library/Bow River a bit further (NE).

I think that 17 Ave between 4th St & 1 St should be the first area to be redeveloped (which this development would contribute to). Right now, there basically isn't anything of interest on 17th Ave east of 4th St, save and except the corner with Model Milk/Pigeon Hole. It's an area with so much potential given it could connect interesting areas (1st St, 17th Ave & 4th St), and has some unique character (e.g., St. Mary's Cathedral & Rouleauville Square).

What it's going to take is a massive amount of local residents living east of 4th street traversing 17th in the west direction as pedestrians for their daily lives. The rest of 17th and 4th St south of 17th are already covering everyone's needs, so you otherwise need a real destination to draw people off of that existing route. If anyone comes into the area from other parts, they either already have a destination or they're going to follow the already engrained areas. When I head to the area without a destination in mind I often head east from 9th St, turn south on 4th street, and reverse once hitting 25/26th avenue. There's nothing that could convince me to keep going east on 17th (yet), and that's a difficult thing to break.

 

[Tothewest]

What it's going to take is a massive amount of local residents living east of 4th street traversing 17th in the west direction as pedestrians for their daily lives. The rest of 17th and 4th St south of 17th are already covering everyone's needs, so you otherwise need a real destination to draw people off of that existing route. If anyone comes into the area from other parts, they either already have a destination or they're going to follow the already engrained areas. When I head to the area without a destination in mind I often head east from 9th St, turn south on 4th street, and reverse once hitting 25/26th avenue. There's nothing that could convince me to keep going east on 17th (yet), and that's a difficult thing to break.

2 things...with the caveat that the area from 1st to MacLeod/LRT will take the longest to redevelop due to some, "Social", circumstances in the area and an atmosphere-sucking streetscape of a casino

1) 1st street is already a good destination north of 17th....so that traffic exists, it just dies at 16th presently
2) Finding a way to open up 17th to the river/old train bridge at lindsay park, would go a LONG way in helping that 4th to 1st region of 17th.

 

[CalgaryTiger]

2 things...with the caveat that the area from 1st to MacLeod/LRT will take the longest to redevelop due to some, "Social", circumstances in the area and an atmosphere-sucking streetscape of a casino

1) 1st street is already a good destination north of 17th....so that traffic exists, it just dies at 16th presently
2) Finding a way to open up 17th to the river/old train bridge at lindsay park, would go a LONG way in helping that 4th to 1st region of 17th.

Anthem doing something with their Erlton piece would help. It is also ok to have the area south of 17th be a little sleepy.

 

[Tothewest]

The real issue is St Marys School, Church, and then St Monica school....essentially blocks any ability to activate Lindsay Park

 

[UrbanWarrior]

It would be a lovely idea to include a juice bar/cafe to the MNP Centre expansion, with entry from the park pathway. The gym and park itself are more than busy enough to accommodate one, especially since the nearest are 6 blocks away (Purple Perk and Starbucks on fourth and first).

 

[potatopizzafan]

It would be a lovely idea to include a juice bar/cafe to the MNP Centre expansion, with entry from the park pathway. The gym and park itself are more than busy enough to accommodate one, especially since the nearest are 6 blocks away (Purple Perk and Starbucks on fourth and first).

MNP has a good earth and jugo juice

 

[UrbanWarrior]

Oh, what?! I had no idea. Well, that’s too bad then