TAS
Senior Member
I saw this at Clareview station this summer - I forgot to report it. Because according to ETS website, bikes are allowed at all times.
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I saw this at Clareview station this summer - I forgot to report it. Because according to ETS website, bikes are allowed at all times.
Mattyeg
Active Member
Having a grocery store and shopping centre at your doorstep makes you somehow more car dependent? What am I missing here… I fully agree that blatchford needs better connections. But Kingsway is not the problem. If you look at a map, Kingsway isn’t even directly south of blatchford…
CplKlinger
Senior Member
I think they're referring to Kingsway Blvd, which has very narrow sidewalks and huge intersections. I've biked it a couple of times and can attest that it is very unpleasant to do.
Mattyeg
Active Member
Ohhhhhh. Ok. This makes more sense. I’m following now
thommyjo
Senior Member
Yeah sorry, the street that the bike route is designated for. It’s 11 lanes of traffic PLUS a sea of asphalt parking lot to connect blatchford to superstore.
Most neighborhoods have that level of; or often better, walkability to their grocery stores. Like the only way this is less walkable I guess would be 0 sidewalk and a raised highway or something? Haha. It’s pretty tough for our premier “green, urban, walkable community”.
Most neighborhoods have that level of; or often better, walkability to their grocery stores. Like the only way this is less walkable I guess would be 0 sidewalk and a raised highway or something? Haha. It’s pretty tough for our premier “green, urban, walkable community”.
buildings
Active Member
wonder what Blatchford's "15 minute" neighbourhood looks like. I'm sure things will improve but def will need people before retailers take a chance. Agree with tommyjo that the trek from somewhere in the Blatch to Superstore would be a non-starter for all but the desperate.
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Gus Haynes
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It's honestly amazing to me how often this point needs to be made. Crossing a huge arterial road and massive parking lot on foot is not something that almost anyone wants to make part of their habitual lifestyle. This is an extremely unpleasant way to get groceries.
whattheheck
New Member
^ And this is where ALL the blame lies on the city. For the life of me, I don't understand why they say they want people to take more transit and walk etc, and then keep on approving neighbourhood designs that are vehicle-dependent. Sure, there's more density. But when the urban design density attached to a power centre type retail area, most residents will take their car.
At an open house years ago, I asked why urban planners are not going back to the grid with main street retail. The non-sensical answer I got was baffling!
This can't be blamed on the province. City hall has full control on neighbourhood design.
At an open house years ago, I asked why urban planners are not going back to the grid with main street retail. The non-sensical answer I got was baffling!
This can't be blamed on the province. City hall has full control on neighbourhood design.
archited
Senior Member
Sounds a little autocratic -- it is one of more than a dozen reasons why I dislike urban planning. The best neighborhoods in the world have grown organically or, at a minimum, assisted (and i use that word reluctantly) by municipal governments -- Edmonton's own best example of this is Old Strathcona.
whattheheck
New Member
^no, the best 'hoods are based on the grid style street pattern. (Like Old strathcona)
No matter how hard one tries to make Mill Woods walkable, for example, it will always be vehicle dominant due to its design.
Go back to the grid. The city has the power to do that and yet they don't and so their goals will never be achieved.
No matter how hard one tries to make Mill Woods walkable, for example, it will always be vehicle dominant due to its design.
Go back to the grid. The city has the power to do that and yet they don't and so their goals will never be achieved.
archited
Senior Member
^ we agree! And who do you suppose was responsible for the rat maze designs of modern neighborhoods (all in the name of making them safer (supposedly) for inhabitants? Is that whirring sound Jane Jacobs spinning in her grave?
degrandprix
New Member
Electric bikes are allowed on LRT from what I'm seeing on the ETS website:
https://www.edmonton.ca/ets/bikes-on-ets
https://www.edmonton.ca/ets/riding-ets#items
If it's true you can't bring an e-bike on LRT, that would definitely affect my decision to buy one which I am thinking of doing soon.
CplKlinger
Senior Member
You're right, they're allowed. I mistook it with the Century Park bike room, which forbids e-bikes with liquid lead acid batteries.
Glenco
Senior Member
Bunch of pansies