What do you think of this project?


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A solution needs to be found because the problem is extremely prevalent. A good example is the building facing the intersection on 111th Ave and Kingsway Ave. that building was built and never had its retail bays filled, it also never had all its residential units filled. Its been standing almost empty for over 10 years and problems are beginning to show up due to the lack of maintenance performed. If those retail bays were filled, even at a rate that might be considered a loss to the owner, the businesses would care about the building and enough money would be collected to maintain it. That in turn would encourage someone to purchase a condo above. That preserves the buildings value in the long run and protects the owner's investment increasing the odds of a positive cash flow in the future.

Perhaps transferring the loan to another company that removes the condition of high lease rates is the way to go. In any case, all parties need to get involved in finding ways to minimize negative cash flow instead of completely stopping it.

That would be a good item to have on someone's platform in this election.
Its called cash flow, like many things in life say 70% or 80% of what you want is better than 100% of nothing. Cash flow is what allows you to do adequate maintenance and pay down mortgages.

I don't know what sort of fantasy world some people live in or have convinced themselves and maybe some others of, but this is a good example of how it does not really work in the end.
 
Its called cash flow, like many things in life say 70% or 80% of what you want is better than 100% of nothing. Cash flow is what allows you to do adequate maintenance and pay down mortgages.

I don't know what sort of fantasy world some people live in or have convinced themselves and maybe some others of, but this is a good example of how it does not really work in the end.
As ThommyJo posted above, they live/work in commercial real estate. Stop being wilfully ignorant about how financing works in commercial real estate and read up on it. Likewise, how bankruptcy for businesses is different than that of individuals if a business fails to meet the terms of its mortgage.
 
Its called cash flow, like many things in life say 70% or 80% of what you want is better than 100% of nothing. Cash flow is what allows you to do adequate maintenance and pay down mortgages.

I don't know what sort of fantasy world some people live in or have convinced themselves and maybe some others of, but this is a good example of how it does not really work in the end.
Cashflow to an individual person or household or small business is not the same as financing and property values for massive REITs, investment funds, banks, pensions, etc.

Please read over the links I shared.

And I don’t disagree with you….i wish it worked the way you’re describing. It would better represent basic supply/demand economics. It would bring a ton of vibrancy back to our cities…. But could also jeopardize future project financing approvals.

Which is why I wonder if a “stick”, like taxes on vacant storefronts could even help or not? But surely we need a solution…
 
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I think the only banks remaining that are NOT in the ICE District are CIBC (until next year), BOM, ATB and Laurentian.
 
Main question I got is what's going to end up replacing CIBC at their old location. It's a pretty prominent corner of downtown.

I don't mind getting banks in the Ice District for now, but it's a far cry from what we were sold on years ago. No Rec Room or Cineplex but hey we got a CIBC and a Servus! But considering that these are the new and shinier buildings in downtown, I feel like this was somewhat expected.
 
As that CIBC is my home branch, I am not pleased as it is important to have these along our most prominent Ave and it's far more convenient than going to ICE each time.
Yes, what is it with the banks lemming like approach to go move here? It is really not a better location for many customers.

Some years ago, CIBC spent a lot of money to fix up that branch and historic building, it is actually quite nice and decent now. No need to move.
 
^ Banks these days view location as giant billboards -- success breeds competition for more of the same. The landlord could have been more creative in attracting better street-worthy uses rather than another pedestrian-traffic--killing bank.
 

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