What do you think of this project?

  • I like it a lot

    Votes: 11 45.8%

  • I like it

    Votes: 10 41.7%

  • I neither like nor dislike it

    Votes: 3 12.5%

  • I dislike it

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • I dislike it a lot

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    24
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erudyk_29 said:
There was a potential second "nucleus" as @Platinum107 put it with the 115th street towers, Motors Lands Towers and Emerald Tower. It really sucks that all of them have either gone stale or fallen through entirely.
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Of all of these proposals I thought that this one was the least likely to go forward
 
Its harder to develop a larger site and maybe harder to imagine transforming an area that is rather vacant right now. A lot of people have very limited imaginations.

So I suppose the Jasper House site is easier to imagine as there are a number of other residential buildings very close by, both new and old. Also the south facing units will have great views.
 
IanO said:
That area alone needs 10k+ or roughly 40 towers @250 a pop.
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I could be wrong, but I don't think there is the land available to build 40 towers in that particular area, without tearing down a number of existing buildings. So if we do have this sort of growth, I suspect the overflow will have to go east, one this area fills up.
 
Well my math tells me it could be 20 towers @ 500 tenants a pop (200 units per) of about 25 to 60 storeys each. Let me see there are 4 more towers in that range for Stationlands, 3 towers on the corner of 104th Street and 103 Ave (Westrich) with room for another tower on the 4th corner, twin towers proposed by Autograph east of the Warehouse District park and another adjacent to that site proposed by Brad Kennedy's old office, another Falcon Tower, a one-time proposal for three towers on105th north of 103rd Ave.(Massey Ferguson+ site), a second tower at the Parks site, a tower that was proposed called "North", a tower on the old Arlington site, and 2 more towers at the ICE district (one on the roof of the existing ICE district build-out and one on 104th Street)... that sums to 20 towers that could fill the bill with very limited demolition of existing buildings and in fact incorporation of some exceptionals into various proposals. This without looking to The Quarters where Alldritt has their mega tower and where the Hat crew had proposed two more towers at 5-corners... and don't forget Regency's 101 street and 102nd Avenue site -- also ICE District Phase II. Edmonton definitely has the space we just need developers to express their will. All told 10k seems more than doable... maybe 20k is in reach, especially if NorQuest and MacU keep growing at break-neck speed and a new Stadium is proposed for downtown.
 
archited said:
Well my math tells me it could be 20 towers @ 500 tenants a pop (200 units per) of about 25 to 60 storeys each. Let me see there are 4 more towers in that range for Stationlands, 3 towers on the corner of 104th Street and 103 Ave (Westrich) with room for another tower on the 4th corner, twin towers proposed by Autograph east of the Warehouse District park and another adjacent to that site proposed by Brad Kennedy's old office, another Falcon Tower, a one-time proposal for three towers on105th north of 103rd Ave.(Massey Ferguson+ site), a second tower at the Parks site, a tower that was proposed called "North", a tower on the old Arlington site, and 2 more towers at the ICE district (one on the roof of the existing ICE district build-out and one on 104th Street)... that sums to 20 towers that could fill the bill with very limited demolition of existing buildings and in fact incorporation of some exceptionals into various proposals. This without looking to The Quarters where Alldritt has their mega tower and where the Hat crew had proposed two more towers at 5-corners... and don't forget Regency's 101 street and 102nd Avenue site -- also ICE District Phase II. Edmonton definitely has the space we just need developers to express their will. All told 10k seems more than doable... maybe 20k is in reach, especially if NorQuest and MacU keep growing at break-neck speed and a new Stadium is proposed for downtown.
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Yes, I feel 20 is a much better number to work with and as you indicated it is actually probably a bit higher than that, even excluding the quarters (which I am doing just to be consistent with the comment that started this discussion). Space is not the biggest problem, it is creating demand which I feel will only happen if the various challenges related to downtown (safety, lack of services/amenities and employment opportunities) are all much better addressed. The city over the last few years has been very reactive, but slow and mostly focused on the first one only.
 
Vacs said:
I can confirm that maclab has nothing to do with this tower. It is a local developer though
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That's what I thought -- @Avenuer threw a curve ball. I really like this proposal and I hope it stays intact as conceived and that it in fact gets built. It strengthens the 121st street corridor and cleans up a site that has some historical relevance and builds on a high-rise relevance as well along Jasper Avenue that is bound to continue in the near future.
 
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