The_Cat
Senior Member
I wonder if the EPCOR station could be relocated north of Remax Field.
I don't see how you can call what council did as leadership. If anything, it was an abdication of leadership.They did lead in this case, unfortunately it didn't lead to the outcome you, and many others wanted. This decision was made with the respect to the feedback that city counselors received from their constituents.
What would be a preferable outcome? Is there any other outcome you'd accept than "yes", go ahead?I don't see how you can call what council did as leadership. If anything, it was an abdication of leadership.
Thanks everyone for sharing you ideas and keeping the discussion alive. We are taking some time to regroup and you will be first on our list when we have an update. While waiting, thank you all for your questions and support but also respectful and constructive suggestions over the years, and especially over the past few months. It has meant a lot to our team to have a safe and respectful forum to make this urban ropeway project something that equally works for yeg, those that are living and have been living here for thousands of years. We continue to be committed to Edmonton and to learning. Again, thank you and talk soon.Prairie Sky's twitter account no longer exists. Ugh....this city infuriates me. @PrairieSkyGondola , please update us when you're ready to do so. You have a lot of supporters here.
Well, nothing has been done with this building for years, the inaction has long preceded the recent discussion about the gondola and related and legitimate indigenous concerns about the site that arose from that.That's not true.
"Sohi and Coun. Aaron Paquette ended the discussion with a motion to start the process of creating a governance structure to empower Indigenous partners and communities with historical and cultural connections to Rossdale to provide direct input into the future of the site."
As I said previously, I think this is the only way to allow future projects in the area — including the Gondola — to proceed without running into this debate each time.
Numerous options here that would have been better than what council did. I believe it should have been accepted as is, but alternatives included amending the lease agreement to reflect community concerns, offering funding to address issues, directing admin to carry out their own Indigenous engagement, or even simply delaying to give everyone a chance to cool off and then decide (not in heat of the moment). Instead they just kind of pooped on the project and left it there. Absolutely no plan forward was issued.What would be a preferable outcome? Is there any other outcome you'd accept than "yes", go ahead?
Which is exactly what Aaron Paquette was concerned about during the counsel meetings. The goal was always to get to a "yes". There isn't any set of circumstances where a "no" would be okay, even with proper indigenous engagement or direct involvement.Numerous options here that would have been better than what council did. I believe it should have been accepted as is, but alternatives included amending the lease agreement to reflect community concerns, offering funding to address issues, directing admin to carry out their own Indigenous engagement, or even simply delaying to give everyone a chance to cool off and then decide (not in heat of the moment). Instead they just kind of pooped on the project and left it there. Absolutely no plan forward was issued.
A number of Indigenous people did say "yes", and they said so loudly and clearly at the public hearing!Which is exactly what Aaron Paquette was concerned about during the counsel meetings. The goal was always to get to a "yes". There isn't any set of circumstances where a "no" would be okay, even with proper indigenous engagement or direct involvement.
Those people don't represent all indigenous peoples.A number of Indigenous people did say "yes", and they said so loudly and clearly at the public hearing!
I don't think anyone should think that all Indigenous people are opposed (or in favour) of this or any other project...it is just applying a racial lens that is inappropriate IMO.
Councillors were completly free to vote "no" - that they did - so to suggest that there was some kind of conspiracy where it wasn't "okay" for them to vote against leasing the land is just...bizzare. There's no conspiracy here. Just an attempt by a person who responded to a competition of ideas to create something unique in Edmonton, and just a project that would have woven new life into the centre of the City...
Some ...........interesting takes by Mr. Huculak in this article.
National Post article