MacLac
Senior Member
No “Synergy” signage up yet on the fencing
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MCXavierL
Active Member
Permit Type
Major Development Permit
Permit Class
Class B
Permit Date
Dec 13, 2021
Status
Approved
Description of Development
The construct and operate a a mixed-Use building with Commercial Uses on the ground level with two (2) Specialty Food Services (Public Space of 64.4 m2 and 64.4 m2) and four (4) Restaurants (89.6 m2 of Public Space and 86.8 m2 of Public Space and 55.3 m2 of Public Space and 125.3 m2 of Public Space), and four (4) General Retail Stores; with 6 Storeys of Multi-unit Housing (158 Dwelling units); and three levels of underground parkade with 190 vehicular parking stalls consisting of 62 vehicular parking stalls as Vehicle Parking Use and 128 Accessory vehicular parking stalls for Multi-unit Housing Use; and a rooftop patio; and to construct an internal courtyard public space framed by Commercial tenant bays with connectivity to both 102 Avenue and 123 Street; and to construct exterior alterations to the Site.
Address
MECH, 12322 - 102 AVENUE NW
Major Development Permit
Permit Class
Class B
Permit Date
Dec 13, 2021
Status
Approved
Description of Development
The construct and operate a a mixed-Use building with Commercial Uses on the ground level with two (2) Specialty Food Services (Public Space of 64.4 m2 and 64.4 m2) and four (4) Restaurants (89.6 m2 of Public Space and 86.8 m2 of Public Space and 55.3 m2 of Public Space and 125.3 m2 of Public Space), and four (4) General Retail Stores; with 6 Storeys of Multi-unit Housing (158 Dwelling units); and three levels of underground parkade with 190 vehicular parking stalls consisting of 62 vehicular parking stalls as Vehicle Parking Use and 128 Accessory vehicular parking stalls for Multi-unit Housing Use; and a rooftop patio; and to construct an internal courtyard public space framed by Commercial tenant bays with connectivity to both 102 Avenue and 123 Street; and to construct exterior alterations to the Site.
Address
MECH, 12322 - 102 AVENUE NW
crisp
Active Member
On this week's episode of what grinds my gears....
Why the f*ck can't this project use brick for exterior? Why are developers in this city so reluctant to ever use brick? Is masonry, and labor of, ridiculously expensive in Edmonton alone? Are market prices and rental prices too low compared to other cities to warrant the additional cost? Or do developers, and architects, just think that for whatever goddamn reason EIFS sells better in Edmonton and therefore they just keep going with this status quo??
The first page of this forum, the examples given for what the product may look like before renders came out, were all brick. @IanO posted a similar product from the same architect, that has brick. After all that, it looks like the actual project will be using EIFS....
Anyways rant off, had to get that off my shoulders lol.
Why the f*ck can't this project use brick for exterior? Why are developers in this city so reluctant to ever use brick? Is masonry, and labor of, ridiculously expensive in Edmonton alone? Are market prices and rental prices too low compared to other cities to warrant the additional cost? Or do developers, and architects, just think that for whatever goddamn reason EIFS sells better in Edmonton and therefore they just keep going with this status quo??
The first page of this forum, the examples given for what the product may look like before renders came out, were all brick. @IanO posted a similar product from the same architect, that has brick. After all that, it looks like the actual project will be using EIFS....
Anyways rant off, had to get that off my shoulders lol.
BASE
Active Member
I think the explanation will probably come down to cost (not well versed enough to be certain). Brick would be fantastic and we don't get anywhere near enough of it here sadly.
thommyjo
Senior Member
Thats a lot of CRUs with OEX and OEX2 nearby as well. Hopefully will really make this a complete neighbourhood for all the residents! (Already almost is!)
A little surprised by all the parking though. I wonder if thats to help serve the retail in the area? Cause I don't imagine the 150 residents will need 130 cars. Id imagine many of these residents will be bikers and transit users, or car share/uber regulars.
A little surprised by all the parking though. I wonder if thats to help serve the retail in the area? Cause I don't imagine the 150 residents will need 130 cars. Id imagine many of these residents will be bikers and transit users, or car share/uber regulars.
TAS
Senior Member
I agree but just for clarification it's not 150 residents, it's 158 units so I'm thinking it's more like 200 + residents for 128 cars.
barhonda
New Member
Probably to serve retail around that area. I know Evolve gym next door is struggling with the loss of the surface area parking lot.
IanO
Superstar
Yes, I suspect that they will have some parking dedicated to short-term use for patrons.
Glenco
Senior Member
DutchBoy
Active Member
I know this is not the same project, but it indeed gives me big European vibes with the tall ground floors and the little plaza. It reminds me of a School of Life video about how modern cities are ugly – one reason they gave was that we have forgotten how to build plazas for people! We've lost the Art of the Square (see 5:30 in the video below).A hint of what's to come? This BC project is a similar scale/look by their primary architect.
1555 McKenzie Saanich - MCMP Architects
www.mcmparchitects.com
EdmTrekker
Senior Member
I agree - especially when brick is prominent from the historic buildings across the street to the East and South. What they are in fact building will diminish the character of the area.
thommyjo
Senior Member
This will be such a great area in 4 years!
ChazYEG
Senior Member
I wish it were sooner. I'd love to stay in this area, but it's mostly rentals and I'm on the market for a condo
thommyjo
Senior Member
Hopefully the market can rebound and make condos an option again soon. I'd imagine the LRT will help with that as well.I wish it were sooner. I'd love to stay in this area, but it's mostly rentals and I'm on the market for a condo
Are you thinking more DT because of the higher # of condos there? Symphony has great prices if you don't mind the hill.
ChazYEG
Senior Member
I'd love to stick to West Oliver, as I've been here since we moved to Edmonton, but we're looking at DT a lot, due to what you pointed out.
Can you connect me with someone who's selling at the Symphony?