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Zellers needs to include a cafeteria.
As for a hotel - make it an ALT. And make sure there's a loading zone for taxis, Uber and guests checking in.
 
And make sure there's a loading zone for taxis, Uber and guests checking in.
That's where the Alley comes in connecting 101st Street to a partially pedestrianized 100A Street (Howard Way). It would have to be made one-way heading in from 101st Street. Zellers wouldn't be Zellers without a counter-service eatery. As to the remainder of the store I could see it working in the downtown idiom if it offered an array of small-scale electrical appliances (Hamilton Beach -- https://hamiltonbeach.com/products) suited to downtown apartment living, hotel amenity & gift-shop items, casual wear clothing, and a small section of "fix-it" hardware items (again appealing to downtown tenancy). ALT would be an ideal hotel operator. Each of the 5 floors could have perimeter rooms facing Howard, 102nd Ave. and 101st Street with amenity-type functions and bars, lounges and eateries on the alley-facing side of the building -- separate elevator banks for hotel and apartment tower.
 
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I also did and used the words black hole in a commentary which I feel is a
I have a concept that would pick up on the "1/2 site" that is left for a Tegler remake. First of all I don't think it would be difficult at all to replicate the exterior features of the original building what with modern technology -- CNC cutting, shaping and boring plus 3-d printing and current materials tech. It is more a use functionality problem than an architectural/build enigma. So I am going to study this for a while and see what can be devised. Pre-set parameters -- no parking on site (but maybe atrium-like connection to off-site parking); chase the "new" Zellers for a ground floor occupancy; develop floors 2 to 6 as a boutique hotel in the design idiom of the previous era; develop a double-use tower above the Tegler-remake-podium (~50 storeys) that is a blended function of vertical farm and apartment; use the existing alley as a portico entry for the hotel and apartment functions; provide a first-class link to transit; and develop a solid case for investors. I know that this will give a number of people on this site a case of the giggles but I suspect those will be the same people who have a hard time with expansive use of imagination. This aligns completely with another project that I have on the go so it is well-doused in reality and I would love to get back on the Edmonton-scene aligned with my (semi)permanent move back to Alberta.
If we can bring back the Alberta Hotel, we can recreate the Tegler. I wish we hadn't made all the mistakes tearing down so many older character buildings downtown, a mistake many seem to still keep wanting to make, but at least we can undo some of the damage and in the process also help improve our downtown. It was more vibrant in the past, in part because those buildings were designed to better fit in and interact with the street.
 
^ And there was no Amazon nor online ordering denting retail expectations.
Yes, there is that too but a lot of the spaces built downtown here particularly in the 70's and 80's were not really well designed for small retail either and are too imposing or not very inviting at street level.

For instance, compare the recreated older building where Credo is on Rice Howard Way now to the 103 Street Centre (former Enbridge location) which actually was nicely renovated a few years ago, but is set back from the street a lot, doesn't seem very inviting and unfortunately is still empty.
 
It would be nice if there was a disclaimer attached to such a photo when posted so it doesn’t confuse others.
I deleted it. I thought it was clearly so bad it didn’t need a disclaimer, but I always underestimate how useless humans are.
 
I deleted it. I thought it was clearly so bad it didn’t need a disclaimer, but I always underestimate how useless humans are.
Not sure why you need to imply I'm useless. That seems uncalled for... I only asked because I have seen official renders from developers that looked much worse than that and I wouldn't put it past Regency to come out with something like that, especially when the city is determining if this property will be considered a problem property or not. The fact that the picture wasn't accompanied by any text or even a winking emoji to give away the fact that it was a joke, is the reason I asked my question. I like to be sure of things in life. I am a gullible person. My apologies if that makes me useless.
 
On an unrelated noted, those Christmas decorations suspended on wires over the street looked amazing.
 
Imagine the presence the Tegler Building would have had, and how it would have complimented the adjacent LRT line. Hopefully this property gets sold to a developer with the vision, resources, and dedication needed to bring something like this back.
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My theory: Allowing this building to be destroyed cursed Edmonton to forever have mediocre developments. In order to lift the curse, the building must be reconstructed in some form. What an absolute tragedy for our local architecture :confused:
 
My theory: Allowing this building to be destroyed cursed Edmonton to forever have mediocre developments. In order to lift the curse, the building must be reconstructed in some form. What an absolute tragedy for our local architecture :confused:
It wasn’t just this building - there were probably at least a dozen as prominent, some of them even more significant, and probably dozens more not as prominent but equally missed.
 
My theory: Allowing this building to be destroyed cursed Edmonton to forever have mediocre developments. In order to lift the curse, the building must be reconstructed in some form. What an absolute tragedy for our local architecture :confused:
If we are cursed for anything, it's allowing the last Carnegie Library ever built to be demolished...
 
But just think if they had not demolished the Carnegie Library we would have never gotten that gem of a building we now have on Churchill Square. 🙄
It's funny to read what people thought at the time. From Dane Ryksen:

The Carnegie went on to serve valiantly for three decades, but by the early '60s change was afoot. When MacDonald, Magoon, and Hill designed it, Edmonton was home to 60,000. Since then the city had quintupled in size, and the building was being pushed well beyond its intended capacity and role. Compounding matters was Chief Librarian Morton Coburn. A modernist in every sense, he wanted “contemporary books, contemporary architecture, contemporary librarians, and a contemporary system.” In his mind the old Carnegie Library was an aging anachronism not fit for purpose.

With help from local philanthropist Stanley Milner, Corburn pursued a campaign to replace Edmonton’s acropolis, and in 1965 the City and Library Board agreed that the construction of a new central library would become its principal Centennial project. When the new Centennial Branch opened in 1967, the Carnegie’s death notice came. The jubilant spirits surrounding Canada’s hundredth birthday likely softened the blow. As historian Tony Cashman recalled, “I don’t remember anyone complaining at the time. People were quite excited about the new library in the square. It certainly wasn’t controversial.” Indeed, one Journal columnist summed up the thoughts of most when he opined that “the old place will be missed. It gave much reading pleasure to many and we acknowledge the debt. However, there is no denying that its facilities were overtaxed by a growing Edmonton, and we can all take pride in its handsome successor.”

The City awarded Poole Construction — the library’s builder forty-six years prior — the contract for the Carnegie’s destruction, and demolition commenced in August 1968. Work lasted nearly three months. It turns out the ol’ building was made of sterner stuff then most. “It was no pushover,” Art Evans eulogized:

“The process seemed painfully slow to passerby who had made good use of the library for many years and in doing so developed an affection for the building itself. When it comes time for old friends to go down, buildings or people, we prefer a quick ending. But the library lingered on as though reluctant to leave the scene without a struggle. It’s a relief the battle is over. One can now emerge from the Macdonald hotel and look across the street without wincing.”
 

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