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Let cities reach for the sky

MARCUS GEE | Columnist profile | E-mail
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Mar. 04, 2011 10:00PM EST
Last updated Friday, Mar. 04, 2011 11:12PM EST

It takes nerve to tell a Toronto audience that Jane Jacobs was wrong. The American-born thinker and activist lived here from 1968 until her death in 2006. She is revered for her insight – now conventional wisdom – that diversity is the key to a livable city. She was one of the first to see the folly of big urban-renewal schemes that destroyed lively older neighbourhoods and replaced them with bland housing projects.

Jane Jacobs's great ideas have morphed into pettiness
He wanted Toronto to work for everybody
But according to Harvard economist Edward Glaeser, she was wrong about at least one thing: tall buildings. In his smart new book Triumph of the City: How Our Greatest Invention Makes Us Richer, Smarter, Greener, Healthier and Happier, he says that “Jane Jacobs’ opposition to urban renewal led her to a more sweeping dislike for tall buildings in general.”

Jacobs argued that high-rise residential towers isolate their residents from the street. Only by living in low-rise buildings, like her own home in New York’s Greenwich Village, could they stay connected to the bustling street life that keeps cities vital and safe.

She led famous fights against plans to drive an expressway through Washington Square Park and tear down 16 blocks of the Village for urban renewal. But her views on density and height also led her to oppose a nine-storey library for New York University. In her 1961 classic The Death and Life of Great American Cities, she argued that neighbourhoods with more than 200 households to the acre risked becoming sterile and standardized.

Anyone who has walked through Hong Kong or midtown Manhattan can see that’s mistaken. Lined with high-rise apartment towers, boasting densities many times over Jacobs’s danger mark, these streets teem with life. The same could be said of Yaletown in Vancouver or the condo canyons of downtown Toronto.

Prof. Glaeser says that as much as he admires Jacobs for her “enormous wisdom and insight,” she was also wrong when she argued in her early work that preserving older, shorter buildings would keep accommodation affordable for homeowners and entrepreneurs. “Her vision for Greenwich Village produced an area that was enshrined in amber, that was unable to produce enough supply to create affordability – and now it’s $5-million to buy a house in Greenwich Village,” he said at a University of Toronto talk this week.

Greenwich Village is a charming place, for certain. So is central Paris, where high-rise buildings are rare. But the enormous cost of residing in such places inevitably turns them into preserves of the rich. Cities that encourage high-rise living are not only more affordable, they are ultimately more livable. The population density that comes with high-rise buildings brings livelier streets, more efficient transit use, less energy consumption and healthier, less car-dependent lifestyles. The alternative to building up is building out – the curse of urban sprawl.

That lesson often seems lost on Toronto. The explosion in high-rise condo development is a great thing for the city – Prof. Glaeser says he is “exalted” to witness it – but a maze of rules about zoning, shadow impacts and densities often limits attempts to build skyward. Every time a developer proposes a tall building, local residents and politicians fight to block it or scale it down.

It is an old prejudice. Prof. Glaeser notes that when early-20th-century real estate developers were trying to build on New York’s Fifth Avenue, then a street of stately mansions, opponents wanted a height cap of 125 feet. Without it, they said, the street would become a soulless canyon and property values would crash. Today it is one of the liveliest and most valuable avenues in the world.
 
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there's quite a difference between what is built on 5th Ave, NYC compared to what we are getting now in TO. In any case, I am happy with a mix of highrise and medium rise, old and new. What we dont want is a monoculture of new point towers that wipes out all of our heritage buildings. Think of the appeal of the entertainment district vs the windswept sterility of much of Bay St.
 
Thanks for that article, E.B. i was just thinking how ridiculous it is to have these rules based on shadows and height caps. If you don't want shadows, move to the suburbs.
 
Let cities reach for the sky

MARCUS GEE | Columnist profile | E-mail
From Saturday's Globe and Mail
Published Friday, Mar. 04, 2011 10:00PM EST
Last updated Friday, Mar. 04, 2011 11:12PM EST

It takes nerve to tell a Toronto audience that Jane Jacobs was wrong. The American-born thinker and activist lived here from 1968 until her death in 2006. She is revered for her insight – now conventional wisdom – that diversity is the key to a livable city. She was one of the first to see the folly of big urban-renewal schemes that destroyed lively older neighbourhoods and replaced them with bland housing projects.

Jane Jacobs's great ideas have morphed into pettiness
He wanted Toronto to work for everybody
But according to Harvard economist Edward Glaeser, she was wrong about at least one thing: tall buildings. In his smart new book Triumph of the City: How Our Greatest Invention Makes Us Richer, Smarter, Greener, Healthier and Happier, he says that “Jane Jacobs’ opposition to urban renewal led her to a more sweeping dislike for tall buildings in general.â€

Jacobs argued that high-rise residential towers isolate their residents from the street. Only by living in low-rise buildings, like her own home in New York’s Greenwich Village, could they stay connected to the bustling street life that keeps cities vital and safe.

She led famous fights against plans to drive an expressway through Washington Square Park and tear down 16 blocks of the Village for urban renewal. But her views on density and height also led her to oppose a nine-storey library for New York University. In her 1961 classic The Death and Life of Great American Cities, she argued that neighbourhoods with more than 200 households to the acre risked becoming sterile and standardized.

Anyone who has walked through Hong Kong or midtown Manhattan can see that’s mistaken. Lined with high-rise apartment towers, boasting densities many times over Jacobs’s danger mark, these streets teem with life. The same could be said of Yaletown in Vancouver or the condo canyons of downtown Toronto.

Prof. Glaeser says that as much as he admires Jacobs for her “enormous wisdom and insight,†she was also wrong when she argued in her early work that preserving older, shorter buildings would keep accommodation affordable for homeowners and entrepreneurs. “Her vision for Greenwich Village produced an area that was enshrined in amber, that was unable to produce enough supply to create affordability – and now it’s $5-million to buy a house in Greenwich Village,†he said at a University of Toronto talk this week.

Greenwich Village is a charming place, for certain. So is central Paris, where high-rise buildings are rare. But the enormous cost of residing in such places inevitably turns them into preserves of the rich. Cities that encourage high-rise living are not only more affordable, they are ultimately more livable. The population density that comes with high-rise buildings brings livelier streets, more efficient transit use, less energy consumption and healthier, less car-dependent lifestyles. The alternative to building up is building out – the curse of urban sprawl.

That lesson often seems lost on Toronto. The explosion in high-rise condo development is a great thing for the city – Prof. Glaeser says he is “exalted†to witness it – but a maze of rules about zoning, shadow impacts and densities often limits attempts to build skyward. Every time a developer proposes a tall building, local residents and politicians fight to block it or scale it down.

It is an old prejudice. Prof. Glaeser notes that when early-20th-century real estate developers were trying to build on New York’s Fifth Avenue, then a street of stately mansions, opponents wanted a height cap of 125 feet. Without it, they said, the street would become a soulless canyon and property values would crash. Today it is one of the liveliest and most valuable avenues in the world.

sounds like she likes suburbs and suburbs kill citys. It is far more better to build vertical than horizontal on the environment, so jane had it wrong. And when it comes to getting to know your neighbours better, condo communitys are now starting to cater to this.
 
Okay, so by such a simplistic spin, it'd be ideal if NYC demolished this on behalf of a supertall

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Okay, so by such a simplistic spin, it'd be ideal if NYC demolished this on behalf of a supertall

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That building likely contributes less to the neighbourhood than its taller neighbours, and building a well integrated supertall on that lot would make the area livelier.
 
"Okay, so by such a simplistic spin, it'd be ideal if NYC demolished this on behalf of a supertall"

I don't believe he's saying every single building should be a supertall.
 
That building likely contributes less to the neighbourhood than its taller neighbours, and building a well integrated supertall on that lot would make the area livelier.

You don't know what that building is. Thanks for affirming your modern-heritage urban philistinism.
 
^It must in order to exist amidst the towers there but that doesn't change the accuracy of what Ahmad said. Regardless of any historical merit the building has, a supertall in it's place would contribute far more economically that this building.

Adma, since you're so smug why don't you tell us what is so special about that building.
 
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But according to Harvard economist Edward Glaeser, she was wrong about at least one thing: tall buildings.


I haven't read Glaeser's book, but if that is one of his arguments, he's done some sloppy scholarship. Jane Jacobs was writing in 1961, when the overwhelming majority of residential highrise buildings that were being built in North America were tower-in-the-park developments that obliterated fully functioning city blocks and replaced the environment with some nondescript towers surrounded by grass. It's ludicrous to compare the state of residential highrises in 2011 to what they were 50 years ago.
 
I haven't read Glaeser's book, but if that is one of his arguments, he's done some sloppy scholarship. Jane Jacobs was writing in 1961, when the overwhelming majority of residential highrise buildings that were being built in North America were tower-in-the-park developments that obliterated fully functioning city blocks and replaced the environment with some nondescript towers surrounded by grass. It's ludicrous to compare the state of residential highrises in 2011 to what they were 50 years ago.

Well, no kidding. His critique also points to Jacobs' strong views on preservation, which although significant and important, don't always fit the modern day context of city living. Her work is revered and widely accepted, yes, but it shouldn't serve as the be all, end all solution for city planning, contrary to the ideals of certain individuals.
 
You don't know what that building is. Thanks for affirming your modern-heritage urban philistinism.

I don't live in NY, nor do I claim to know anything about NY's "urban heritage" so I don't see how my statement affirms anything other than an opinion based on a simple photograph. There are photographs of run down buildings that have significant heritage. If you had failed to identify such buildings in a city that you are not familiar with, would you also be considered a philistine? :rolleyes:


^It must in order to exist amidst the towers there but that doesn't change the accuracy of what Ahmad said. Regardless of any historical merit the building has, a supertall in it's place would contribute far more economically that this building.

Adma, since you're so smug why don't you tell us what is so special about that building.

Thank you, sir!
 
I don't live in NY, nor do I claim to know anything about NY's "urban heritage" so I don't see how my statement affirms anything other than an opinion based on a simple photograph. There are photographs of run down buildings that have significant heritage. If you had failed to identify such buildings in a city that you are not familiar with, would you also be considered a philistine? :rolleyes:

Well...here's a recent link on the building.
http://www.archdaily.com/113501/new-landmark-for-manufacturers-trust-company-building/

Now, I'm not expecting everyone to know what the building is--the vast majority wouldn't.

However, bear in mind my strategy--that is, given the context in which I posted it, I didn't have to ID the building. The fact that it's "of importance" should be self-evident simply through my posting it, regardless of whether those who behold my post knows what it is or not. It's a posting technique that expects the beholder to read behind the lines and trust the poster's authority, IOW I'm not being arbitrary or frivolous with my choice, not at all. I know what I'm doing.

Sometimes, in the words attributed to he who inspired such architecture, "less is more"--especially if one seeks to tripwire the blatantly ignorant amateurs and insensitive jerks who post on these kinds of message boards. It's like, watch it, kids: the car you're snowballing may be that of your new school principal...
 

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