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http://www.yorkregion.com/news/local/article/626812--markham-aims-to-boost-population-job-density

“The only way Langstaff will work is if it is transit dependent,” and not just transit oriented, planning commissioner Jim Baird said. Development will be phased so high-density buildings do not proceed until other targets are met. The number of trips taken by methods other than cars is expected to be 60 per cent, extremely atypical for the suburbs. Despite those ambitious targets, concerns have been raised about what the real traffic impacts will be, particularly with only one road in and out and a planned TTC commuter lot across Yonge Street. A complex matrix of triggers aims to ensure that new phases only move forward when the community is ready. The first phase will not proceed until after the restoration of Pomona Mills Creek and the establishment of a link with the Richmond Hill Viva station via Cedar Avenue. The second wouldn’t go forward until the Yonge subway is operational and elementary schools have been built.

While buildings as high as 50 storeys are proposed near Yonge and toward the centre, plans also call for mid-rise buildings and townhouses. At full build-out, Markham targets 32,000 residents and 15,000 workers — a density of 1,000 people and jobs per hectare. That is more than twice the provincial target of 400 people and jobs per hectare. To put it in perspective, only parts of downtown Toronto and the Yonge-Eglinton area meet that target. Langstaff aims to more than double it. “If all of it gets built, the densities become a reality,” Mayor Frank Scarpitti said. “It is unique, maybe the first of its kind.”

But if full-day GO service, the 407 Transitway and Yonge subway don’t develop as planned, future phases will be curtailed since the road capacity to house so many people does not exist, Markham officials said. “It has to be transit first. We have to innovate,” Ms Shapero said.
 
How realistic is it to meat the target if there 'townhomes' and what not being considered as part of the plan?

Also, what area do they plan on measuring here ... I guarantee there are a lot of 'hectares' in downtown Toronto that are over 1000 ... more like 10,000+ ... take FCP, that's about 10,000 people right there.

Actually, any large office building would probably meet the 1000+ hectares so the real question is over what area is the 1000+ sustained.
 
I hope they don't knock down this historic modest little church on Langstaff just south of the 407--it has history worth keeping! Also at least a dozen homes worth saving, along with many mature trees/bush.

Judging by google streetview, the area looks like a dumping ground for the mafia!

The Langstaff Go parking lot should go vertical, with residential above.
 
They're supposed to be preserving all the heritage sites either in place or possibly moved to a single park at the east end.

There are a lot of IFs to hit those targets. They don't even START the real building until after the subway opens. And then if residents aren't taking enough transit they'll keep curtailing what's allowed in the next phase. It's a cool proposal but we'll have to see how close to this ideal they actually get.

And Taal - the whole site is a contained 47 hectares so when you add 32K res + 15K jobs it's easy to do the math. Anyway you slice it, it's very ambitious. There must be areas downtown with that many jobs OR residents but I think it's the mixed-use aspect that's very different...especially north of Eglinton.
 
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