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Just got 15 bags of rice and dozen bags of vermicelli today in anticipation of this. Price of rice has already doubled in the Los Angeles area... here, the price has increase 10-20% in some places, but some stores still sell at regular prices so buy as much as you can.

Rice crisis fuels tensions
Shortages, rising prices for staple sparks fears of civil unrest in some Asian, African nations
April 01, 2008
Keith Bradsher
New York Times

HANOI, Vietnam–Rising prices and a growing fear of scarcity have prompted some of the world's largest rice producers to announce drastic limits on the amount of rice they export.

The price of rice, a staple in the diets of nearly half the world's population, has almost doubled on international markets in the past three months. That has pinched the budgets of millions of poor Asians and raised fears of civil unrest.

Shortages and high prices for all kinds of food have caused tensions and even violence around the world in recent months. Since January, thousands of troops have been deployed in Pakistan to guard trucks carrying wheat and flour. Protests have erupted in Indonesia over soybean shortages, and China has put price controls on cooking oil, grain, meat, milk and eggs.

Food riots have erupted in recent months in Guinea, Mauritania, Mexico, Morocco, Senegal, Uzbekistan and Yemen. But the moves by rice-exporting nations late last week – meant to ensure scarce supplies will meet domestic needs – drove prices on the world market even higher.

This has fed the insecurity of rice-importing nations, already increasingly desperate to secure supplies. Last Tuesday, President Gloria Macapagal Arroyo of the Philippines, afraid of increasing rice scarcity, ordered government investigators to track down on hoarders.

Vietnam's government announced on Friday that it would cut rice exports by nearly a quarter this year. The government hoped that keeping more rice inside the country would hold down prices.

The same day, India effectively banned the export of all but the most expensive grades of rice. Egypt announced that it would impose a six-month ban on rice exports, starting April 1, and Cambodia banned all rice exports except by government agencies.

Governments across Asia and in many rice-consuming countries in Africa have long worried that a steep increase in prices could set off an angry reaction among low-income city dwellers.

"There is definitely the potential for unrest, particularly as the people most affected are the urban poor and they're concentrated, so it's easier for them to organize than it would be for farmers, for example, to organize to protest lower prices," said Nicholas Minot, a senior research fellow at the International Food Policy Research Institute in Washington.

Several factors are contributing to the steep rise in prices. Rising affluence in India and China has increased demand. At the same time, drought and other bad weather have reduced output in Australia and elsewhere. Many rice farmers are turning to more lucrative cash crops, reducing the amount of land devoted to the grain. And urbanization and industrialization have cut into the land devoted to rice cultivation.

In Vietnam, an obscure plant virus has caused annual output to start levelling off; it had increased significantly each year until the last three years.

Until recently, the potential for rapid price swings was muted by the tendency of many governments to hold very large rice stockpiles to ensure food security, said Sushil Pandey, an agricultural economist at the International Rice Research Institute in Manila.

So governments have been drawing them down as world rice consumption has outstripped production for most of the past decade. The relatively small quantities traded across borders, combined with small stockpiles, now mean that prices can move quickly in response to supply disruptions.

http://www.thestar.com/article/407805
 
A 20% increase in cost of a ridiculously cheap foodstuff is hardly going to break people. Out of curiosity, how long will your stockpile last? I think that sounds like a 10 year supply for me.
 
A 20% increase in cost of a ridiculously cheap foodstuff is hardly going to break people.

Among the poor it most certainly could.
 
Right. You mean the poor in Ontario? Or in Indonesia? If the former, I'll wager that housing or transportation are larger concerns.
 
Farming is the most over-subsidized and protected business on earth and food prices are absurdly cheap, especially here in Canada. At the same time, a growing number of countries in the world are adopting diets that, like ours, are well above what they need in caloric intake. Obesity is a growing global problem much moreso than hunger.

Let the food prices inflate and we should avoid any populist move to subsidize farmers for this extremely necessary adjustment.
 
20% increase is only the beginning folks. As I said I can confirm the prices have doubled in the Los Angeles area. Fifteen 8-kg bags of rice only last 3 months, and if they were to cost twice as much like in LA, that would mean well over $100 in expenses. You don't think that is a lot extra to pay just for rice?
 
That's 120 kg of rice, dry. That would be a lot of meals for me. Nonetheless, the increase is a bit more than a dollar a day. I'm sure other concerns probably outweigh this.

More importantly, there isn't much you can do about it, beyond buying a few months supply.
 
Right. You mean the poor in Ontario? Or in Indonesia? If the former, I'll wager that housing or transportation are larger concerns.



Note the continents:
Shortages, rising prices for staple sparks fears of civil unrest in some Asian, African nations


Note the countries:
Food riots have erupted in recent months in Guinea, Mauritania, Mexico, Morocco, Senegal, Uzbekistan and Yemen.


Note the problem:
The price of rice, a staple in the diets of nearly half the world's population, has almost doubled on international markets in the past three months. That has pinched the budgets of millions of poor Asians and raised fears of civil unrest.


I'll wager that in poor countries the cost of food is a greater problem than the cost of transportation or housing. If you are starving the other two don't mean that much.


The article did not mention Ontario.
 
I wasn't really talking about the article, I was more responding to doady, who lives in Ontario (I guess?).

Of course, the price of food is a much larger concern for the developing world. There are similar problems with the skyrocketing cost of corn, palm oil, and wheat.

Rather than subsidizing food, I think it'd be better all-around if income supplements were given to the poor to help them afford food.
 
what did condi do this time?
 
That's 120 kg of rice, dry. That would be a lot of meals for me. Nonetheless, the increase is a bit more than a dollar a day. I'm sure other concerns probably outweigh this.

More importantly, there isn't much you can do about it, beyond buying a few months supply.

If you an anticipate an two-fold increase in a food product that you have to buy regularly it doesn't hurt to stockpile it, especially considering that it is non-perishable. But I don't why you focus on this. I took the time to post the article for a reason. I never said there would be a "crisis" in Ontario. I was just showing an example of how it is affect North America as well. If I had not known about the price increase, I would have not tried to find out the reason behind it. Makes sense? :rolleyes:
 
Two decades ago, this was what passed for a Rice crisis
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A 20% increase in cost of a ridiculously cheap foodstuff is hardly going to break people. Out of curiosity, how long will your stockpile last? I think that sounds like a 10 year supply for me.


This is a small part of a global food crisis due to soaring gas prices and bad crops.A lot of the worlds food source is reaching its maintainable limits and if crisis due to natural or man made disaster occurs watch other food stables like flour will sky rocket...afransen for you it maybe nothing but for the worlds poor this is a huge increase.
 
Flour has already doubled. Yes, it will be hard for the poor, but the answer is not to subsidize food as we have and continue to do. Income supplements are the answer.
 

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