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Amare
Senior Member
The townhouses that will be right next door to Willowbrook, 571 Prince Edward Drive (Strong feeling that something happened which facilitated the launch), and 39 Newcastle (which i'm very sure that he cooked something up to facilitate that mega-proposal).
drum118
Superstar
Not sure where I posted my comment regarding Metrolinx looking at something for this station, but Metrolinx needs to get their act together not only for this site, but all stations that can house development on them.
Metrolinx made the mistake not buying up the cement plant to stop residential going in there, but most of all deal with getting trains in/out of Willowbrook. They could fix the corridor in this area to allow for 6 tracks to service both VIA and GO yard better than today and not interfering with more service on the corridor lines down the road.
I would work with the developer for 39 Newcastle to not only to develop this site, but also Metrolinx site.
I would build the 2nd east entrance first and setup a temporary GO station there. Would raze what is built here so far and close the current station, access and tunnel. Would dig down deeper to put all Metrolinx parking there along with the lot to the east. Temporary parking can be across the street on Newcastle.
A new station would be built at street grade that will be almost the same level as the current tunnel. Would slop the tunnel ramp. The station would be set back from the street, but not as far as it is, with green space.
Since Metrolinx is going with 100' setback for building from the rail corridor, you could put parking levels in for 2/3 floor, with the roof being a rec area for the development and green space/solar panels.
Part of the street leading to the GO station can be close off so it can be use for the development of the whole area. The whole surface area could have pedestrian streets only so buildings can be more street friendly. All parking and deliveries below ground.
As I stated in 2006 when asked about adding more stations to the existing ones, I said there needs to be more, but not all of them require parking lots or drop off areas with different type of service.
What GO/Metrolinx needs to do regarding station being closer than the current spacing, is to develop a different model for service where some trains stops at everyone while others bypass some of them as one of 4 different type of service. Some of these trains will be only 3-5 cars long as EMU, while others can be in different length up to 12 cars long.
With a station at Park Lawn and here, every other train would service one of them, with the 3rd train stopping at both station. Quality of service would be better than the 15 minute plan schedule.
Though this area doesn't have much going for it now, doesn't say it can be something else in 20-30 years down the road.
Metrolinx made the mistake not buying up the cement plant to stop residential going in there, but most of all deal with getting trains in/out of Willowbrook. They could fix the corridor in this area to allow for 6 tracks to service both VIA and GO yard better than today and not interfering with more service on the corridor lines down the road.
I would work with the developer for 39 Newcastle to not only to develop this site, but also Metrolinx site.
I would build the 2nd east entrance first and setup a temporary GO station there. Would raze what is built here so far and close the current station, access and tunnel. Would dig down deeper to put all Metrolinx parking there along with the lot to the east. Temporary parking can be across the street on Newcastle.
A new station would be built at street grade that will be almost the same level as the current tunnel. Would slop the tunnel ramp. The station would be set back from the street, but not as far as it is, with green space.
Since Metrolinx is going with 100' setback for building from the rail corridor, you could put parking levels in for 2/3 floor, with the roof being a rec area for the development and green space/solar panels.
Part of the street leading to the GO station can be close off so it can be use for the development of the whole area. The whole surface area could have pedestrian streets only so buildings can be more street friendly. All parking and deliveries below ground.
As I stated in 2006 when asked about adding more stations to the existing ones, I said there needs to be more, but not all of them require parking lots or drop off areas with different type of service.
What GO/Metrolinx needs to do regarding station being closer than the current spacing, is to develop a different model for service where some trains stops at everyone while others bypass some of them as one of 4 different type of service. Some of these trains will be only 3-5 cars long as EMU, while others can be in different length up to 12 cars long.
With a station at Park Lawn and here, every other train would service one of them, with the 3rd train stopping at both station. Quality of service would be better than the 15 minute plan schedule.
Though this area doesn't have much going for it now, doesn't say it can be something else in 20-30 years down the road.
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I'm not a big Di Ciano fan either, but just because Dunpar has developments, doesn't mean that Di Ciano did something wrong or anything at all on their behalf. They are developers, so they have development proposals.
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Amare
Senior Member
^I'm sure all of that will be confirmed once the OPP is done with their probe of him.
This belong here or should we start a new thread? Vandyk is the partner.
News Release
Ontario Partners with Business to Build New Etobicoke GO Station
October 25, 2018
Improving the transit experience and making life easier for Ontarians
TORONTO — Ontario's Government for the People is keeping its promise to build transit and make Ontario open for business by working with the private sector to build commuters a new, modern station at Mimico GO. This station is the product of a new kind of partnership. This project will optimize the use of government-owned land and increase transit ridership by building a new development along an existing transit line. We are improving the transit experience and making life easier for Ontarians.
Today John Yakabuski, Minister of Transportation, Steve Clark, Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Kinga Surma, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Transportation, Christine Hogarth, MPP, Etobicoke-Lakeshore, and Phil Verster, President and CEO, Metrolinx, visited the Mimico GO Station to announce that Ontario had signed a non-binding Letter of Intent with Vandyk Group of Companies. Metrolinx and Vandyk will negotiate the construction of a new Mimico GO Station.
"We are making it easier for people commuting in the GTHA," said Minister Yakabuski. "The new station we are building at Mimico is part of our plan to improve service on the Lakeshore West line to every 15 minutes or better. By working with businesses to develop this site, we are delivering on our promise that Ontario is open for business, while we get this work done at a lower cost to the taxpayer."
The new Mimico GO Station will include a new, accessible station building, pedestrian tunnels and elevators, refurbished platforms and new entrances to the station and below grade parking. In exchange for the right to develop above Mimico GO Station, the developer will pay all construction costs for the main station building, new parking and Greenway at Mimico GO Station.
"We are very excited about the opportunity at Mimico GO Station," said Phil Verster. "Bringing a new station into a community at little or no cost to the taxpayer is something that has great potential. It also makes good business sense. Metrolinx continues to be open to innovative, joint approaches with the private sector that reduce the cost to taxpayers and also provide efficient, safe and affordable transportation options."
Allowing developers to build above transit stations in exchange for constructing new station facilities reduces the cost of transit expansion projects to taxpayers and creates mixed use communities at our stations.
"We are cutting red tape and working with businesses to build new transit," said Minister Clark. "Transit Oriented Development in major cities around the world are proven to increase ridership and make life easier for transit users by building vibrant communities around existing transit lines. This is one more way we are keeping our promise to open Ontario for business and increase housing in the GTHA."
News Release
Ontario Partners with Business to Build New Etobicoke GO Station
October 25, 2018
Improving the transit experience and making life easier for Ontarians
TORONTO — Ontario's Government for the People is keeping its promise to build transit and make Ontario open for business by working with the private sector to build commuters a new, modern station at Mimico GO. This station is the product of a new kind of partnership. This project will optimize the use of government-owned land and increase transit ridership by building a new development along an existing transit line. We are improving the transit experience and making life easier for Ontarians.
Today John Yakabuski, Minister of Transportation, Steve Clark, Minister of Municipal Affairs and Housing, Kinga Surma, Parliamentary Assistant to the Minister of Transportation, Christine Hogarth, MPP, Etobicoke-Lakeshore, and Phil Verster, President and CEO, Metrolinx, visited the Mimico GO Station to announce that Ontario had signed a non-binding Letter of Intent with Vandyk Group of Companies. Metrolinx and Vandyk will negotiate the construction of a new Mimico GO Station.
"We are making it easier for people commuting in the GTHA," said Minister Yakabuski. "The new station we are building at Mimico is part of our plan to improve service on the Lakeshore West line to every 15 minutes or better. By working with businesses to develop this site, we are delivering on our promise that Ontario is open for business, while we get this work done at a lower cost to the taxpayer."
The new Mimico GO Station will include a new, accessible station building, pedestrian tunnels and elevators, refurbished platforms and new entrances to the station and below grade parking. In exchange for the right to develop above Mimico GO Station, the developer will pay all construction costs for the main station building, new parking and Greenway at Mimico GO Station.
"We are very excited about the opportunity at Mimico GO Station," said Phil Verster. "Bringing a new station into a community at little or no cost to the taxpayer is something that has great potential. It also makes good business sense. Metrolinx continues to be open to innovative, joint approaches with the private sector that reduce the cost to taxpayers and also provide efficient, safe and affordable transportation options."
Allowing developers to build above transit stations in exchange for constructing new station facilities reduces the cost of transit expansion projects to taxpayers and creates mixed use communities at our stations.
"We are cutting red tape and working with businesses to build new transit," said Minister Clark. "Transit Oriented Development in major cities around the world are proven to increase ridership and make life easier for transit users by building vibrant communities around existing transit lines. This is one more way we are keeping our promise to open Ontario for business and increase housing in the GTHA."
Stefan
Active Member
I don't see any mention of it but what's going to happen to the current, stalled "On the Go" condo. Will it be incorporated in the deal, or is this completely separate?
ProjectEnd
Superstar
Well this seems off to a good start. "People's Government" indeed...Ugh.
https://twitter.com/BenSpurr/status/1055427589072777216
https://twitter.com/BenSpurr/status/1055427589072777216
Careful @ProjectEnd as its comments like that that will put you on the same hit list that Ben seems to be on. Ugh indeed!
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
adHominem
Senior Member
He also hasn't given an interview to Oliver Moore at the Globe, and ministers on other portfolios are following the same playbook. I think it's less of a Twitter hit list and more that the Ford Queen's Park seem to be actively avoiding daylight.
raptor
Senior Member
Why do people pretend to be surprised by this?
Are we really expressing surprise though? The word disgust more closely describes my reaction.
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42
Automation Gallery
Superstar
Makes sense (air rights)...to have development over top and developers pitch in to these expensive projects, same goes for the Mondelez site nearby
and the new GO station at Front + Spadina,
was that not the complain with building the high profile Eglinton LRT line where most stations @ major intersections were proposed to be 1 storey structures
and the new GO station at Front + Spadina,
was that not the complain with building the high profile Eglinton LRT line where most stations @ major intersections were proposed to be 1 storey structures
innsertnamehere
Superstar
A few of the Eglinton stations are supposed to have development partnerships from what I recall.