DirectionNorth
Active Member
And historic SFH.
ARG1
Senior Member
I was in contact with someone in contact with the higherups at Brampton, and the reality is even sadder. Brampton has listed in their 2040 Vision that the transportation priority in their region is Pedestrians > Cycling > Transit > Cars, and they're following that as literally as they can. The options shortlisted for this extension are A) Surface Level in Mixed Traffic, or B) Underground. Why Mixed Traffic? Because if its in its own separate lanes, they can't reduce the number of lanes on Main Street from 4 to 3 to give cyclists their own dedicated lanes. In other words, transit is being completely thrown in the dirt in favour of cycling.
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ For context, the original HMLRT EPR had mixed running as well, from Nanwood to Wellington. This 2021 surface option is a shorter stretch of mixed running, from Wellington to Nelson St E for the turn into the terminal station next to the Brampton GO Station.
Allandale25
Senior Member
It should be noted that the "2040 Vision" document is just that. A vision document. The City of Brampton is going through an Official Plan update and updating its Transit and Transportation Master Plan. Those two documents probably give a more comprehensive overview of the context. Have you seen in any staff report for any road/LRT/BRT/BRT lite project since the start of this term the literal use of "Pedestrians > Cycling > Transit > Cars"? Happy to read if you have.
Also, isn't the use of "completely thrown" a little bit of an exaggeration? Even with the two block portion of surface mixed running, there will be some advantages to the LRT on Main and Hurontario compared to today's existing condition.
ARG1
Senior Member
This comes from a verbal confirmation with the head of Brampton's Official Plan Review Team, so unfortunately I do not have a written source. Take from that as you will.
I will add though that this prioritization of cycling > transit can be seen in other places as well. Bike lanes were installed along Main Street south, however council refuses the installation of bus lanes along the corridor, despite the fact that the bus lanes would carry 20k people per day, compared to the 750 people that would make use of the bike lanes. Part of that is allegedly because BT is concerned that bus lanes would prevent further upgrades, but in general the current council term has put the least amount of investment into transit compared to other modes like biking so far.
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ In terms of that so-called prioritization, what about Queen St and the BRT planned there? Are you concerned that bike lanes will be added as part of that project and there will be negative impacts to the proposed BRT service quality/operations? Are there any other transit routes where you are worried that cycling infrastructure will be prioritized over good and evidence-based transit?
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ARG1
Senior Member
Considering its a metrolinx project, probably not. Plus that corridor doesn't seem to struggle with space as much as Main Street, although the downtown segment near Main Street might be cut down. Its entirely possible that at least with the current city council, the BRT lanes in downtown Brampton might be cut in favour of bike lanes.
Allandale25
Senior Member
^ Exactly addresses my point about the concern regarding the so-called prioritization list ("Brampton has listed in their 2040 Vision that the transportation priority in their region" (emphasis added)) trumping on an Official Plan/Master Plan/Project level every transit project in Brampton with somehow cycling infrastructure diluting transit projects. It's more complex than that. Metrolinx has a significant role with the Queen BRT.
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drum118
Superstar
Dundas traffic lights are now working, but the concrete medium still needs to be remove. All existing fixtures gone.
Boy, they were going gang busters weeks ago placing poles at various intersections, but that it. Nothing strung for those poles as well being anchor down. No construction fencing up for the west side south of the 403 nor the bus platforms.
Boy, they were going gang busters weeks ago placing poles at various intersections, but that it. Nothing strung for those poles as well being anchor down. No construction fencing up for the west side south of the 403 nor the bus platforms.
Undead
Senior Member
From today:
drum118
Superstar
May 24
More up on site
Hurontario LRT Zone (2) Port Credit Station To South Service Rd
Intersection to be remove including bridge and road.
New intersection and road extension to the west
Hurontario LRT Zone (1) Port Credit Station
More up on site
Hurontario LRT Zone (2) Port Credit Station To South Service Rd
Intersection to be remove including bridge and road.
New intersection and road extension to the west
Hurontario LRT Zone (1) Port Credit Station
drum118
Superstar
Hazel McCallion Line
Bringing 18 kilometres of smooth, fast, reliable rapid transit to Mississauga and Brampton.
www.metrolinxengage.com
drum118
Superstar
khaldoon
Active Member
I thought the telecom and other underground cables were moved already over the last two years.
drum118
Superstar
I thought it was also as I saw all kinds of material stock pile for ducking. I know for sure the section north of CP track was done as that was one area I saw the most of all. Going south I saw very little of it yearly. The gas line work has taken a lot longer to the point extra work was done that wasn't originally plan or require, Still doing work at the Queensway and to be completed in a few months.