Does anyone have any information about how the "loop" around Mississauga City Centre area will be incorporated now that the flyover is created?

It was my understanding the loop was previously proposed and designed prior to the flyover. How will it now work with it?

Also, is this going to be a convoluted mess now, or did we end up with something better at the end of the day with both the loop and flyover?
 
Does anyone have any information about how the "loop" around Mississauga City Centre area will be incorporated now that the flyover is created?

It was my understanding the loop was previously proposed and designed prior to the flyover. How will it now work with it?

Also, is this going to be a convoluted mess now, or did we end up with something better at the end of the day with both the loop and flyover?

The flyover is the same as it was when the loop was proposed, so no impact.
 
I'd thought the loop was deferred (obviously not!). There's been so many plans I can't keep track. Is there a simple map of the area showing all the tracks?
 
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Does anyone have any information about how the "loop" around Mississauga City Centre area will be incorporated now that the flyover is created?

It was my understanding the loop was previously proposed and designed prior to the flyover. How will it now work with it?

Also, is this going to be a convoluted mess now, or did we end up with something better at the end of the day with both the loop and flyover?
The loop will extend west of the Square One Terminal to Confederation then south to Burnhamthorpe and then back to Hurontario in the centre of the roads. As far as I know, the extension to Duke of York will remain on the north side of Rathburn as per the original EA. With the extension going to Confederation now, the EA will have to be updated and only then will we get a clear picture how the loop will be updated.

Burnhamthorpe/Hurontario intersection will have to be rip up to built the WYE connection that was supposed to be built last summer per the 2020-23 plan.

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Had no plans to look at all the corridor until about March with a few odd spots before then, but that change on Sunday when my deck/computer chair shaft broke on the chair that wasn't 4 years old to go shopping for a new one and bring it home. I then did a full trip of the corridor by car.

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A crew was wiring a electrical box by the plaza. All the west fencing from south of Ray Lawson to the Police station was removed back in December that I wasn't sure if it was being removed or relocated based on what I saw that day.

No work taking place on the 407 bridge and only one set of tracks in the snow for a piece of equipment to be drop off that wasn't there in December

Crew digging the centre out at Barondale and no idea why.

Guild Electric installing new street light pole and traffic lights at Square One Dr. The poles are taller for the street light there as well a number of locations.

A police car sitting south of Fairview next to the guideway with no one around. 6 vehicles parked up on the shoulder of the road and no idea what the workers doing along the east side of the road. Nothing has taken placed in the guideway based on the piles of duct banks still in the same location on Dec 31,

The big change I saw for the guideway between King and Paisley that I maybe wrong, crew were shoveling snow off the concrete base of the guideway. If true, no idea when the based was poured.

Surveyors checking the area between Paisley and the Queensway.

Guild Electric was installing new tall street light post and doing other work south of the Queensway.

The retraining wall for Mary Fix Creek poured and looks like the base has been poured. Crew back filling the east retraining area. No idea how the high retraining walls will transition to meet the current elevation of the creek to the north as something has to take place to stop water getting up to the tracks and the area to the west in a flood condition. What got me was the double handling of material. A truck was loaded in the stage area near the push box with another truck dumping a load off. The truck being loaded would drive to the area being backfill to dump its load that only took a few minutes. to do and Hurontario shut down while the dumping took place.

3 Mobilinx white hats on site and I have never seen them before. One was a female. A crew was working above the push box and the existing track corridor support, and next to no work I could see for the station and guideway.

Looking at the barrier wall between the Guideway and Hurontario, more has to be built once there is no need for equipment and trucks to use that area

As for the OS poles as noted above, most of the corridor had the poles in place by the summer with a few area still missing poles. As for the station shelters post for platforms, they were all up by the summer and don't recall when the post went up for Eglinton and need to view some videos for that time frame as that when I saw they were in place. Not on my do list at this time.

Based on what I saw, very little work will be tracking place for the next few months and we will know more when the public meeting happens sometime in Q1 I hope.
 
I'd thought the loop was deferred (obviously not!). There's been so many plans I can't keep track. Is there a simple map of the area showing all the tracks?
It was until January 2024 when Ford green light it, but ML has done nothing with it due to the long list they have on Mobilinx trackwork, other issues as well been close to 2 years behind schedule. The line was to have open December 2024 in place of Sept 2024.

Even the extension to downtown Brampton was approved in January with no idea which plan will be used. The surface line is to cost $900 million while the surface/tunnel option will cost $2.9 billion. Someone has to decide soon regarding the Steeles Station as Mobilinx will build it on the south side with the approved plan being call for on the northside since Mobilinx is working strictly to the current contract with the station being on the southside. Because of not amending Mobilinx contract, trackwork for Burnhamthorpe intersection became straight tracks in place of an WYE connection that will have to be rip out and rebuilt a great cost as well disruption of traffic for the intersection up to 6 months.

The city has no clue to what is taking place nor a timeline for the loop that they have requested ML a number of time to appear before council to provide them with an update and a new time line.
 
It was until January 2024 when Ford green light it, but ML has done nothing with it due to the long list they have on Mobilinx trackwork, other issues as well been close to 2 years behind schedule. The line was to have open December 2024 in place of Sept 2024.

Even the extension to downtown Brampton was approved in January with no idea which plan will be used. The surface line is to cost $900 million while the surface/tunnel option will cost $2.9 billion. Someone has to decide soon regarding the Steeles Station as Mobilinx will build it on the south side with the approved plan being call for on the northside since Mobilinx is working strictly to the current contract with the station being on the southside. Because of not amending Mobilinx contract, trackwork for Burnhamthorpe intersection became straight tracks in place of an WYE connection that will have to be rip out and rebuilt a great cost as well disruption of traffic for the intersection up to 6 months.

The city has no clue to what is taking place nor a timeline for the loop that they have requested ML a number of time to appear before council to provide them with an update and a new time line.
Is there a simple map of the area showing all the tracks? Both what is currently being built, and the proposed loop?

I have no idea why there appears to be a junction if the loop isn't approved.
 
Is there a simple map of the area showing all the tracks? Both what is currently being built, and the proposed loop?

I have no idea why there appears to be a junction if the loop isn't approved.
The idea of the junction is to allow the line to be spit into 2 lines and forcing riders to transfer from one line to the other and why I have opposed this loop since day one. It replace what there today with buses that has an average of 20 minutes to go in/out of the bus terminal on a good day. It also reinforce the need for drivers to stay in the car north of the loop trying to get to/from Cooksville Go Station. Service north on route 17 has a higher headway than the southbound 2. Even if you add BT 502 and Route 2, the headways do not match.

I don't know of any existing plans for the area and @Tim MacDonald aerial shots give a good view what is to take place. The land between the 403 bridge and the 2 elevated section will be where the WYE will be. The WYE had to be built under the current contact as that was the only way in/out of Square One Station.

There have been talk and it needs to happen of having LRV's bypass Square One Station that will save riders at least 19 minutes like it does today using the 103.

The city has try doing a loop with buses in the past, but fail even at $1 a ride and that was before M City surface as well part of Parkside Village. The Loop is a City Thing, not ML. The biggest problem since the 1990's is the location of the current terminal built for a city of 250,000 seeing 25,000 daily riders. The new one needs to be close to Hurontario that will support 150,000 riders daily including GO and a Real Transitway Station underground.
 
The flyover is the same as it was when the loop was proposed, so no impact.

I thought it was different back in the 2014 EPR time.

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Does anyone have any information about how the "loop" around Mississauga City Centre area will be incorporated now that the flyover is created?

It was my understanding the loop was previously proposed and designed prior to the flyover. How will it now work with it?

Also, is this going to be a convoluted mess now, or did we end up with something better at the end of the day with both the loop and flyover?

The 'loop' just got bigger when the Province put out the news release on February 8, 2024.
Green: Loop before the 2018 cut by the Province (route in the 2014 EPR
Blue = Hurontario LRT under construction (approximated)
Red = loop restored and it's larger as of February 8, 2024

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I thought it was different back in the 2014 EPR time.

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It ended up being what it is today because of MTO. MTO did not want the 403 bridge to be rebuilt to support the LRT as well having the off ramps effected by the LRT as well. You can see in the plan the area where the eastbound on ramp goes around and that is the area of the WYE and the meeting of the 403 new bridge as well the elevated section going south as well the one to Square One.
 

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