[drum118]

Sept 28
All photos on line

New chamber vaults being installed with guideway wall to be rebuilt between Britannia and the eastbound 401 off ramp.

Milling of concrete on both sides of each rail that will be remove next and reinstall again that is 5mm+ out of gauge for Courtneypark Intersection and on of 5 currently to be done

All rails in place for Topflight Intersection and being splice

New northbound lanes to the 407 bridge ready to be open with curb work still to be done for the 407 eastbound on ramp

Westbound 407 Ramp waiting paving and rest of the curb work on Hurontario cannot be done until current ramps is close

All Concrete behind me

 

[Mercury]

5mm? Honestly... fair. You don't even need precision equipment to check that. A tape measure from Home Depot is enough if you know how to use it. That's unacceptably out of spec for rails, in my unprofessional opinion.

I still want to know why this wasn't caught earlier. There should have been enough oversight to catch it on the first completed intersection. Also what kind of incompetent contractors can't measure below centimetres?

 

[Milaisacat]

5mm? Honestly... fair. You don't even need precision equipment to check that. A tape measure from Home Depot is enough if you know how to use it. That's unacceptably out of spec for rails, in my unprofessional opinion.

I still want to know why this wasn't caught earlier. There should have been enough oversight to catch it on the first completed intersection. Also what kind of incompetent contractors can't measure below centimetres?

Were they over by 5mm or under by 5mm. Either way, the company hired to build a standard gauge railway is in big trouble for them having not built a standard gauge railway.

 

[drum118]

Were they over by 5mm or under by 5mm. Either way, the company hired to build a standard gauge railway is in big trouble for them having not built a standard gauge railway.

Mobllinx was to bring over a crew from Europe to installed the tracks and teach locals how to do it. I have no idea if that happen as plan other than seeing a crew doing the work not like PNR.

I do know BOTT was doing the guideway work up to the end of 2024 that included encasing the ties for the open rail sections and fully encased the tracks at intersections, stations platform including the future extension was to go, at future stations loxtions as well a few pad areas. They used the same brackets to hold the rail in place like PNR is doing. Don't recalled if alignment was done the same way as to what PNR is doing.

The one issue being miss or over looked is Alstom bogges as they are not design for NA standards and they are not prepared to redesign them that has being causing Ottawa problems. The first car for the line went to Kingston to deal with Ottawa cars issues since they are the same car we are getting. After many months of investigation of the problem, Alstom stop the investigation and not prepared to make changes that I know.

I have no knowledge if the rail is from Europe which is most likey since it was cheaper to buy it there than here where the head profile is slightly different from NA rail. I expect Alstom will not honoured the warranty of the cars unless the rails meets their standards for thier cars that ML has taken upon themselves to cover the cost of fixing the gauge issue.

Eglinton had very little issues with the surface tacks unlike Hurontario. Rails had to be mill in places and don't recalled seeing rail being fix but wasn't out there that often that I may have miss some work. Have to rely on what other people were seeing.

Since Finch is using the Netherlands rail standars where rails were installed different than Hurontario, there were a lot less issues with gauge issue there. I did noticed a few tents over the tacks in various locations after the tracks were installed and no knowledge what was taking place under the tents bur cars were running in the east while the west was being built a lot sooner than Hurontario.

Testing was to started in Feb 2023 on the testbed to Matheson and here we are September 30 2025 with not all the trackwork done to Matheson or Eglinton the new testbed or any overhead system in place. Been over two years for the Hwy 401overpass trackwork that still not done.

 

[Milaisacat]

Mobllinx was to bring over a crew from Europe to installed the tracks and teach locals how to do it. I have no idea if that happen as plan other than seeing a crew doing the work not like PNR.

I do know BOTT was doing the guideway work up to the end of 2024 that included encasing the ties for the open rail sections and fully encased the tracks at intersections, stations platform including the future extension was to go, at future stations loxtions as well a few pad areas. They used the same brackets to hold the rail in place like PNR is doing. Don't recalled if alignment was done the same way as to what PNR is doing.

The one issue being miss or over looked is Alstom bogges as they are not design for NA standards and they are not prepared to redesign them that has being causing Ottawa problems. The first car for the line went to Kingston to deal with Ottawa cars issues since they are the same car we are getting. After many months of investigation of the problem, Alstom stop the investigation and not prepared to make changes that I know.

I have no knowledge if the rail is from Europe which is most likey since it was cheaper to buy it there than here where the head profile is slightly different from NA rail. I expect Alstom will not honoured the warranty of the cars unless the rails meets their standards for thier cars that ML has taken upon themselves to cover the cost of fixing the gauge issue.

Eglinton had very little issues with the surface tacks unlike Hurontario. Rails had to be mill in places and don't recalled seeing rail being fix but wasn't out there that often that I may have miss some work. Have to rely on what other people were seeing.

Since Finch is using the Netherlands rail standars where rails were installed different than Hurontario, there were a lot less issues with gauge issue there. I did noticed a few tents over the tacks in various locations after the tracks were installed and no knowledge what was taking place under the tents bur cars were running in the east while the west was being built a lot sooner than Hurontario.

Testing was to started in Feb 2023 on the testbed to Matheson and here we are September 30 2025 with not all the trackwork done to Matheson or Eglinton the new testbed or any overhead system in place. Been over two years for the Hwy 401overpass trackwork that still not done.

Well, that's an outstandingly informative response. Thank you very much.

 

[drum118]

Oct 1
Was at City Hall today and told Metrolinx may not appear before council on Nov 5 now. ML wants to appear before Regional council first and then before Bramton before Mississauga with no dates known now.

Took me 20 minutes to drive from Eglinton to the 403 due to the single lane south of Kingsbridge to the 403

Central Pkwy
Concrete was being pour by a sump pumper for the northbound track as I drove by the area, Since the tracks will be open here, concrete pour was to anchor the ties info position.

City Centre
Looking at the model for MCC, they have made a few updates for the area. City Center now showb being extended to Hurontario as an easy-west road. The north-south section of City Centre makes a slight curve around 50 City Centre and then straight to Burnhamthorpe on the east side of the exising building with the removal of the parking structure. The existing road for the remaining corner will be fill in to form a square cotrner where the two City Centre will cross each other.

 

[JJTheJetPln]

I really hope that if/when they appear before Brampton council that they actually have answers as opposed to twiddling their thumbs with boilerplate answers. This has gone on for far too long.

 

[superior_chromatic]

City Centre
Looking at the model for MCC, they have made a few updates for the area. City Center now showb being extended to Hurontario as an easy-west road. The north-south section of City Centre makes a slight curve around 50 City Centre and then straight to Burnhamthorpe on the east side of the exising building with the removal of the parking structure. The existing road for the remaining corner will be fill in to form a square cotrner where the two City Centre will cross each other.

This would go a long way toward making that corner of city centre more walkable. The recommended alignment would only be possible with the redevelopment of 55 City Centre, though. And the 2022 Downtown Movement Plan says as much.

I notice that the scale model has a couple of placeholder towers on the northwest corner of Burnhamthorpe and Hurontario. Should this be taken as a hint of any movement?

 

[drum118]

This would go a long way toward making that corner of city centre more walkable. The recommended alignment would only be possible with the redevelopment of 55 City Centre, though. And the 2022 Downtown Movement Plan says as much.

I notice that the scale model has a couple of placeholder towers on the northwest corner of Burnhamthorpe and Hurontario. Should this be taken as a hint of any movement?

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I haven't seen that report but a quick look is basely the similar to the Downtown 21 plan. 55 needs to come down and make the street straighter,

That block has been talked about well over a deacde with no real plan for it at this time that I am aware of. 55 City Centre has been looking for someone to rent close to 2 deades or mor as the turn rate is high and why office space or towers are on the radar these days for MCC.

The placemap is a placemap as what may come for that whole block and the city core. As it stands, there is supposed to be no height restrictions for anything that can be built along Hurontario other than flight path restrictin areas. What ever developers want to be built height wise, they can do it. This is set by the province, not the city. Alba Condos wanted to go taller than it is but too late for the deadline to do so. The plaza across the street is an MOZ for 2 44s towers.

 

[SR95]

55 City Centre has been looking for someone to rent close to 2 deades or mor as the turn rate is high and why office space or towers are on the radar these days for MCC.

Recently came across this GTA Office market report from Colliers (was posted in another thread here) and pretty much confirms that MCC office market is dead. 18.3% vacancy rate for office space in MCC is 3rd worst in the GTA ....

https://www.collierscanada.com/download-article?itemId=960a995e-3c09-46be-9f11-b8a86692f56e

If that NW block that Morguard owns is slated for office space, it's gonna be a while before we see any movement there. Hopefully the City Centre road reconfiguration isn't tied to redevelopment of that block because it could be a long way away and that would dramatically improve the pedestrian experience in MCC if/when it's built.

 

[Dan416]

Recently came across this GTA Office market report from Colliers (was posted in another thread here) and pretty much confirms that MCC office market is dead. 18.3% vacancy rate for office space in MCC is 3rd worst in the GTA ....

https://www.collierscanada.com/download-article?itemId=960a995e-3c09-46be-9f11-b8a86692f56e

If that NW block that Morguard owns is slated for office space, it's gonna be a while before we see any movement there. Hopefully the City Centre road reconfiguration isn't tied to redevelopment of that block because it could be a long way away and that would dramatically improve the pedestrian experience in MCC if/when it's built.

Not really surprising when MCC has no subway and no planned subway and the Milton line has no planned expansion, never mind diversion to MCC, and the Mississauga Transitway is underused and of little value, and the Hurontario LRT is years behind schedule. We shall see how the ridership on the Hurontario LRT goes; hopefully better than the Mississauga Transitway.

 

[sixrings]

Not really surprising when MCC has no subway and no planned subway and the Milton line has no planned expansion, never mind diversion to MCC, and the Mississauga Transitway is underused and of little value, and the Hurontario LRT is years behind schedule. We shall see how the ridership on the Hurontario LRT goes; hopefully better than the Mississauga Transitway.

Yup look at Vaughan. That’s crazy.

Don’t worry that Milton and midtown line are coming any day now.

 

[SR95]

Not really surprising when MCC has no subway and no planned subway and the Milton line has no planned expansion, never mind diversion to MCC, and the Mississauga Transitway is underused and of little value, and the Hurontario LRT is years behind schedule. We shall see how the ridership on the Hurontario LRT goes; hopefully better than the Mississauga Transitway.

Transit does go a long way to making it a more attractive office market but at a certain point I feel like if we cram enough people here, employment surely has to follow - simply because of access to talent. At least I hope so lol since more density is coming a hell of a lot sooner than all these transit projects.

 

[drum118]

Oct 2/3
The Exchange Tower is where an office tower used to be that was out dated and 50% empty.OMERS whas down size and cancel office towers for their land. There is a lot of empty land east of Dixie road on both side of Eglinton that will draw office towers there first than MCC. Sames goes for the airport area. There are a few office towers that will match the flight height restrictions along Hurontario north of Matheson. There are other areas that still can built office towers that will be cheaper to rent than MCC and until they are max out, Office towers will be a long time coming to MCC with 15-25s being the tallest they will be unless part of residential toweres which should happen in the first place.

What a week that has seen a lot of changes for the corridor. Was planning to take some photos shots of Central Pkwy on my way home and after doing some shopping on Friday but late doing so that only got a few shots due to poor lighting. Counted over 2 dozen workers finishing work on more poured concrete for the northbound track with a lot sitting around waiting for something to happem. About 2 hours after doing shopping, most were still there in the dark sitting around.

Shot the area around 8am and still on the darkside as the sun was rising that saw over a dozen workers on site doing various things, A lot of concrete grinding was taking place with hand grinders and haven't seen this after concrete was poured for tracks. The southbound track was being prepared for concrete pour next week. Noticed 2 areas of hydro work taking place with one pole being held in place.

Once the concrete work is finished for CP-Fairviw area, they will move to the Fairview-CPKC bridge area.

What got me the most was Cooksville Station as the base has been poured for as well forming for the guideway base including the northside of CPKC bridge area that is now ready for concrete. I knew last week the station guidway would be pour as there was no sign of form work for the station.

Steel Mats are being place from Agnes to Hillcrest for the southbound track with some ties in place. There is a stock pile of rails on site wil rail place along the guideway for this area.

The Queensway station platform is now poured.

Had a look at the Hydro work for the North Service Road area. New poles along with wiring has been installed over Hurontario and further back from it as well poles to deal with the poles that need to be remove from the southbound curb lane, Those curb lane poles has the wires removed from them as well cut down at the top considering these are concrete poles in the first place. To the north of the plaza, new poles in place as well strung with 2 poles taking the line to an underground duct work to the North Service Rd poles. Communication cables needs to be remove from the poles that will be remove hopeful this year.

Hydro duct banks being installed south of King St on the westside now.

All photos on line
CP-Fairview

Cooksville Station

Queensway Station

North Service Rd

The 2 poles with cables going underground

Agnes To Hillcrest

 

[drum118]

Oct 5
Hydro had 4 trucks and crew working on the supported pole at Central Pkwy to and there is a 3rd excavated site there as well.

No one working at Counteypark today,

No concrete pour for the Derry Station formwork.

Some concrete has been pour for Topflight diamond area and on track to open on the 15th as plan. Saw no change for the OMSF guideway rebuilt with someone maning the site these days. Will not be surprise to see trackwork on Topflight torn up like the OMSF guideway.

The 407 westbound on ramp area is being clear and graded for the ramp as well the new area where the ramp will be move to for the new sharp curve.

The only thing I saw new in Brampton was at Ray Lawson with a hole been dug where new paving took place some month ago.