DrillBit
Active Member
A naive question : is this a City bluff to force Conservatory Group to go ahead with their development ?
If this J-Road is built, City wouldn't need that piece of land and can play really hard ball.
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If this J-Road is built, City wouldn't need that piece of land and can play really hard ball.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
City can't bluff - City has nothing!
North York Centre Secondary Plan requires 2 service roads parallel to Yonge and so will it's northern extension - Yonge Street North Planning-Study/Secondary-Plan
- one to to west along Beecroft and other to the east along Doris
- intensification brings more vehicular traffic, vehicular traffic from high-density development along this Yonge corridor should directly enter/exit onto service road or side-streets but NOT Yonge St - if vehicular traffic directly enter/exit onto Yonge the turning traffic would delay Yonge Street traffic and create more Pedestrian-Vehicle Conflict Points
- Beecroft Road is relatively easy to extend northward to Steeles; Doris would be a bitch to extend north to Steeles since it'll have to cut through meandering Silverview Community (east of Aoyuan's M2M where J-road is); politically the current local councillor wants to protect Silverview Community - hence the BS purple Doris proposal - current Yonge Street North Planning Study is trying to figure out how to extend Doris with CityStaff perfering the Blue Doris proposal.
Inez Court | 104.25m | 32s | Conservatory Group | Richmond Architects
A summary of the drastic Site Plan changes YolandaFlanders/ConservatoryGroup caused for the site directly east (5840-5870 (5888) Yonge) can be found here,.... http://urbantoronto.ca/forum/threads/toronto-5888-yonge-street-92m-29s-plaza-quadrangle.25011/page-2#post-1276990 New 5840-5870 (5888)...
That J-road (Olympic Garden Drive) needs to be built to service Aoyuan M2M which will open phase 1 in 2 years, phase 2 likely in 5 years. Before this BS Conservatory Group Inez Court completes,...
M2M Condos | 129.9m | 40s | Aoyuan | Wallman Architects
City will need this Inez Court land for Beecroft North Extension,... regardless of the J-road which basically only service Aoyuan's M2M,...... Beecroft extension and Doris extension north to Steeles are both needed to service new Yonge Street North Secondary Plan area.
Conservatory Group (Yolanda Flanders) got City by the balls and have been squeezing for years! I believe the current development application is BS Head Fake and will be revised upward - significantly! Ditto for adjacent 5840 Yonge but not just due to a potential Cummer Station
Plaza on Yonge | 108.7m | 32s | Plaza | BDP Quadrangle
AlbertC
Superstar
Asking the Conservatory Group to put more effort into aesthetics would be like asking Tim Hortons to elevate their coffee quality. As long as they're making sales then I doubt they'll be bothered to make any changes to their strategy.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
While this on-site parkland dedication seems excessive - it’s really not what the City requested; this site is very close to Finch Hydro Corridor (Provincial) and thus, not an area lacking green space.
City Planning in consultation with Transportation Services, Park&Recs, Councillor, etc,... have a “hit list” of targeted properties they would like for Developers to convey to City. In comparison, Tridel HullmarkCentre - the largest 2-tower development in North York Centre Secondary Plan area - conveyed 10 requested “hit list” properties to City (3 at Edithvale Park, 3 on Bennington Place for Doris south extension and 4 at MapleHurst Park (as I recall)).
Here Conservatory Group is conveying the equivalent to about 17 house lots to City
- some could be considered on “hit list” for Beecroft north extension
- those for park were not really needed since plenty of nearby green space at (provincial) Finch Hydro Corridor
The parkland is west of the extended Beecroft Rd - which is typically the boundary of North York Centre Secondary Plan area,.... thus, this dedicated parkland area is relatively useless for redevelopment currently zoned for the single residential houses there,... maybe possible to sneak in townhouse arguing already townhouses directly north - but typically townhouses NOT allowed west or east of North York Centre Secondary Plan area,.... a few *leakage* has been granted at OMB - basically the air rights from the parkland dedication has been transferred over to the development proposal.
The most interesting part of this "Proposed Inez Court Park Dedication" is that it's adjacent to the "Proposed 5800 Yonge Park Dedication" - follow link to 5800 Yonge thread to see why joining these two proposed Park Dedication is significant!
5800 Yonge | 173.23m | 54s | Times Group | Wallman Architects
I don't like the lack of variety among the 4 towers. Only noticeable difference from street level will likely be the height. Although I guess the curvy design will stand as nice contrast to the generally blocky high-rises in the area. Additionally, I wished there was more commercial at the...
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artyboy123
Senior Member
No new renderings are not updated in the database. The only change in the database are changing the building height from 106.00m & 38.15m to 104.25m & 38.75m.
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
Starting in November 2019, adjacent 5800 Yonge hosted Refugee Shelter but a year later City's SSHA (Shelter Support and Housing Administration) converted it to Homeless Shelter,... and soon afterwards, many of Yolanda Flander's / Conservatory Group boarded up bungalow properties 8-28 Inez Court and 51 Drewry became Squatter Ville and BonFire Alley with a Drug Den at 21 Inez Court - adjacent to the 5800 Yonge Homeless Shelter!
Yolanda Flanders / Conservatory Group couldn't deal with the on-going squatter issue,... so Cllr Filion's "solution" to the Inez Court squatting issue was for North York Community Council to grant a special demolition permit before Redevelopment Proposal been approved - about 5 years early! (Usually City only allow demolition when Redevelopment has been approved and Construction is about to start)
In a few months, we'll see the demolition of all of Yolanda Flanders / Conservatory Group boarded bungalows to be sodded over 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 Inez Court and 51 Drewry,... so squatters can't squat there!
The squatters were kicked out months ago,... with nowhere to go, most have set up encampments first behind 5800 Yonge - until Toronto's Emergency Management Team kicked them off the property,... then the nearby Provincial 5760 Yonge and Finch Hydro Corridor land. I'm calling the encampment A-La-Camp,... after another Cllr Filion's fiasco,.. A-La-Cart
torontolife.com
Yolanda Flanders / Conservatory Group couldn't deal with the on-going squatter issue,... so Cllr Filion's "solution" to the Inez Court squatting issue was for North York Community Council to grant a special demolition permit before Redevelopment Proposal been approved - about 5 years early! (Usually City only allow demolition when Redevelopment has been approved and Construction is about to start)
In a few months, we'll see the demolition of all of Yolanda Flanders / Conservatory Group boarded bungalows to be sodded over 8, 9, 10, 11, 12, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25, 26, 27, 28 Inez Court and 51 Drewry,... so squatters can't squat there!
The squatters were kicked out months ago,... with nowhere to go, most have set up encampments first behind 5800 Yonge - until Toronto's Emergency Management Team kicked them off the property,... then the nearby Provincial 5760 Yonge and Finch Hydro Corridor land. I'm calling the encampment A-La-Camp,... after another Cllr Filion's fiasco,.. A-La-Cart
Filion on the Toronto a la Cart fiasco: “The one thing the city messed up on was the carts”
Meet Nancy Senawong as she schleps her $30,000 cart through Mel Lastman Square, where she will serve city-approved, city-branded, multiculti street fare
torontolife.com
sunnyraytoronto
Senior Member
Development Application disappeared from CityPlanning site months ago,... welcome to Yolanda Flanders' world,....
Inez is now devoid of houses.
Future Beecroft extension looking south at Drewry.
North extension of Beecroft to Centrepoint Mall will go through here.
North extension of Beecroft to Centrepoint Mall will go through here.