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Question: When will CreateTO actually open it?
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Skyhighzz
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Did anyone bother to look at original design? A lot of the Claude Cormier (CC +A) charm is missing. The shape & look of the tower is completely different. From full, curved & animated to smaller, flat & severe. A big change. That’s the centrepiece of the whole space. The pathways are now black tar from a more enhancing grey. More seating? But did they take away those delightful white wheel structures around park. I hope not.
Will they take away the broad middle boardwalk jutting onto sand? Another cool feature. Not impressive imo, especially for a waterfront feature.
Will they take away the broad middle boardwalk jutting onto sand? Another cool feature. Not impressive imo, especially for a waterfront feature.
evandyk
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The boardwalk into the sand is an accessibility feature that probably won't be canceled, but you never know with this city...
mburrrrr
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Skyhighzz
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Surprised people are praising it. If I didn’t see the original appealing design, I would think it’s an OK space-but I would have still hated the black surface pathway for a waterfront park. So many other options. Unfortunately, lots of shortcuts taken here.
AlvinofDiaspar
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I am relatively ok with this given it's a predominantly industrial space - and if I recalled correctly asphalt was the material for the pathways even in the original proposal.
AoD
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It actually looks fine to me!
AlvinofDiaspar
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Northern Light
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I think one could reasonably discuss an alternative to asphalt paving here, but to my recollection, as with AoD above, and looking back through the earlier design iterations, it appears to me it was always going to be asphalt. So I can't really be disappointed with delivery of exactly what was promised in that regard.
I'm not sure where else you see VE'ing here?
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As I look through the iterations.....I think preferred the cylindrical structure as shorter w/no roof...... I'm not sure they that evolved the way it did.
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On overall budget, I can tell you there was a competition here, and I know one of the other proponents..........their design was not chosen based on projected cost exceeding budget.
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Yes, and 'cumbersome' means the City will not do any upkeep at all! As they clearly understand asphalt, best to use it in many places.
Skyhighzz
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Lighter asphalt would have been an improvement for this small space. The final look just doesn’t look very Claude Cormier’ish. Light & fun.
Love Park was spot on.
AlvinofDiaspar
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Love Park is very much value-engineered - the broad strokes from the original design remained - the details, not so much. I find the treatment harsher than what this park received (given the context).
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rdaner
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I really hate BlogTO as they keep referring to this park as a fake beach! I prefer the German ‘künstlickerstrand.’
For example Lesliestrassekünstlickerstrand.
Or in French: plage aménagée.
And finally because I am a total prat the Icelandic: gerviströnd. Eg: (Ryan) Goslinggerviströnd.
For example Lesliestrassekünstlickerstrand.
Or in French: plage aménagée.
And finally because I am a total prat the Icelandic: gerviströnd. Eg: (Ryan) Goslinggerviströnd.
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Skyhighzz
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Cost cutting or not, whether you like LP or not. It turned out wonderfully for a lot of people. A lot of appealing details are (still) there.
I remember being intrigued by the visuals of Lookout Slip a year ago & now …a bit underwhelmed, even for an “industrial area”.
