DonValleyRainbow
Senior Member
Another theory: it's a slide area for any vehicles out of control.
^ hilarious
Seriously, though. Seems like a waste of materials and time to put a shoulder there.
Surely that is exactly why there are shoulders and having them- where there is room - on ramps seems like a good idea to me as those without one seem to get blocked by accidents or breakdowns all the time.I agree, but that just might be the design standard they are using. A shoulder is a good place to put in broken down vehicles, cop cars / pulled over vehicles, snow storage, etc. It could also be converted to a through lane later on possibly. Also if there is a collision / breakdown on one of the through lanes, traffic could be rerouted via the shoulder to bypass it.
Why are there three lanes for this off ramp? They aren’t turn lanes, because they all have arrows pointing straight ahead only. This seems excessive, given existing congestion on the streets that will have to accommodate all this traffic.
Because they need to be able to "store" the vehicles coming off of the highway at each red light cycle. Lengthening the ramp is one way to do it, but widening it is another.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
Actually widening rather than lengthening a ramp is a terrible way to perform this function. Why? The flow of cars off the ramp and onto Harbor St. will be 150% greater than what it would be if they went to with two through lanes and one turning. If Harbor doesn’t have the capacity for this, or if the light cycle isn’t very short, there will be a big backlog up the ramp.
This is going to be a permanent shit show. This ramp has nowhere near the storage capacity of the ramp it replaced. The curb lane of th east-bound Gardiner will be permanently crippled at this ramp other than at 3:00 AM.Because they need to be able to "store" the vehicles coming off of the highway at each red light cycle. Lengthening the ramp is one way to do it, but widening it is another.
Dan
Toronto, Ont.
The ramp + 3 dedicated lanes all the way to Bay will have similar or greater capacity than the old setup. Furthermore, the new setup will offload traffic more efficiently than the the old York loop.This is going to be a permanent shit show. This ramp has nowhere near the storage capacity of the ramp it replaced. The curb lane of th east-bound Gardiner will be permanently crippled at this ramp other than at 3:00 AM.
Looks like they are installing the lights
The obsessive-compulsive in me is very pleased that the new light standards replicate those already used on the Gardiner.