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condovo
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The pediment looks defaced. Maybe the figures are in the British Museum, on display next to the Elgin Marbles.
So, there's no record of what these figures are, of what the scene is? No photographic or other historical evidence? I've got to be honest. I find that hard to believe.
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officedweller
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Presumably they are in a warehouse somewhere?
"Pediment above the north facade in 2017, the classical statues within the triangle having been removed
as they were in danger of falling into the street."
"Pediment above the north facade in 2017, the classical statues within the triangle having been removed
as they were in danger of falling into the street."
Toronto’s historic Massey Hall - Historic Toronto
Massey Hall, view from the northeast corner of Victoria and Shuter Streets in May 2017. In the early-19th century, after an electrified streetcar line was
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condovo
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Does anyone know which warehouse? This is insane.Presumably they are in a warehouse somewhere?
"Pediment above the north facade in 2017, the classical statues within the triangle having been removed
as they were in danger of falling into the street."
Toronto’s historic Massey Hall - Historic Toronto
Massey Hall, view from the northeast corner of Victoria and Shuter Streets in May 2017. In the early-19th century, after an electrified streetcar line wastayloronhistory.com
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AlvinofDiaspar
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Presumably they are in a warehouse somewhere?
"Pediment above the north facade in 2017, the classical statues within the triangle having been removed
as they were in danger of falling into the street."
Toronto’s historic Massey Hall - Historic Toronto
Massey Hall, view from the northeast corner of Victoria and Shuter Streets in May 2017. In the early-19th century, after an electrified streetcar line wastayloronhistory.com
I think that bit was wrong (or the sentence itself wasn't clear - 2017 refers to the date of the photo and not the date of removal) - from the HIS:
(Massey Hall/ERA)
It's pretty clear the sculptures were removed a long time ago; given there is no reference to where they are now, it's probably safe to assume it's lost.
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Richard White
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AlvinofDiaspar
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Just look at the markings left behind - one is quite plausibly a harp (2nd from right); the two furthest on the left looked like string instruments (violin?) followed by an organ? I think there are some old archival photos that shows the pediment sculptures, but not clear enough to identify all the details
e.g. https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2013/05/massey-hall-past-present-and-proposed-future
They're still around in 1911, but gone-ish (??) by 1973, and most definitely gone by 1994:
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3Dementia
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Towered
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The more I look at it, the more it bothers me that those bricked up windows remain...
DSC
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I had not seen this 1910 post card before, from TPL
AlvinofDiaspar
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got it right
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Not sure why now wouldn't have been the right time.
AlvinofDiaspar
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I am sure they have their reasons - it is their project afterall. I am not inclined to be too critical given how much this restoration have already given back. If all that's missing is 3 bricked in window, so be it.
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condovo
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The bricked-up windows have to go and the pediment figures have to come back, in some form. With the façade (lightly) cleaned and the stairs removed now, these deficiencies are glaring.
officedweller
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That's too bad.