TossYourJacket said:
Oh nice, they actually confirmed platform edge doors are happening (well as much as anything is confirmed at this point). That's a relief.

The idea of canopy structures above the outdoor sections is also interesting, although that's given as a possibility, vs the more certain terms they use around the platform doors.
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Everything coming out of Metrolinx seems to be written by a cheap PR agency

Everything helps fulfill capacity. An automated system using a constant flow of shorter trains – and platforms of just 100 metres long – help add up to as little as 90 seconds between trains, rather than every two minutes.
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lol, BS. You're never, ever getting 90 second headways on a line with such high ridership. Especially not when customers have to squeeze into a tiny a*s train.

“With automated, you can actually expand your peak hours significantly, and help segments of the population that are not usually well served by transit because they’re not in the regular business hours,” he explains.
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Yeah, right. As if the night-time subway shutdowns around the world are driven by a mysterious lack of nighttime train operators, rather than basic maintenance requirements.
 
TheTigerMaster said:
Well, it's official. The Ontario Line is never happening.

On the bright side, when the next government resurrects the DRL, at least we'll likely get the DRL North bundled with it, now that a DRL to Eglinton is in the public consciousness.
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Of course it will be promptly studied to death and the subsequent government to that one will propose an even better fantasy plan that will never be built. Eventually due to complete gridlock and overcrowded death trap transit, Toronto will become the first city in North America where the modal share will mostly be walking, as it will be the fastest way to travel.
 
Soon Toronto is going to reach the point of no return where the Yonge line is so overcrowded, that if it ever happens to shut down even for just a minute this city will just end up being a complete gridlocked mess.

We like to toss around the term gridlock pretty loosely here these days, but Toronto will legitimately become one of the first gridlocked cities in the world if there are no shovels in the ground for the Ontario Line, DRL or whatever else people want to call this thing by 2025. By that point we will be able to say that we have world class gridlock to the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
 
We are already now, no need to wait. The subway is already mostly unreliable the majority of the time but it's being hidden by happy stats by the brain trust of the TTC. Nothing much will change. The limits of our transit capacity is what is driving growth downtown but also in the suburbs near GO stations with service expansions planned. It's the in-between areas of the city that will be starved of growth as they will become undesirable areas - hard to get to by transit or by car.
 
Amare said:
Soon Toronto is going to reach the point of no return where the Yonge line is so overcrowded, that if it ever happens to shut down even for just a minute this city will just end up being a complete gridlocked mess.

We like to toss around the term gridlock pretty loosely here these days, but Toronto will legitimately become one of the first gridlocked cities in the world if there are no shovels in the ground for the Ontario Line, DRL or whatever else people want to call this thing by 2025. By that point we will be able to say that we have world class gridlock to the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
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It will just encourage people with money even more to move downtown. Then Toronto suburbs will be less desirable unless you live right beside a subway station. the good news would be that our downtown would become even more dense.
 
Amare said:
Soon Toronto is going to reach the point of no return where the Yonge line is so overcrowded, that if it ever happens to shut down even for just a minute this city will just end up being a complete gridlocked mess.

We like to toss around the term gridlock pretty loosely here these days, but Toronto will legitimately become one of the first gridlocked cities in the world if there are no shovels in the ground for the Ontario Line, DRL or whatever else people want to call this thing by 2025. By that point we will be able to say that we have world class gridlock to the likes of which no one has ever seen before.
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It actually already scores as one of the most gridlocked cities in the world, at least for commuters.

https://www.thrillist.com/news/nation/cities-with-the-worst-commutes-in-the-world-survey
 
Light metro is something Toronto should have adopted years ago. Would have been way better for Sheppard, Eglinton and revamping the Scarborough lrt. I'm not against it so long as the trains are long enough to match the capacity. They better not cheap out on it like Vancouver did.

Edit: to clarify, Scarborough RT is light metro. My post meant that I was hoping for more widespread adoption, whether with linear induction motors or simply standard, but smaller, rail cars.
 
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Tuck said:
Light metro is something Toronto should have adopted years ago. Would have been way better for Sheppard, Eglinton and revamping the Scarborough lrt. I'm not against it so long as the trains are long enough to match the capacity. They better not cheap out on it like Vancouver did.
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We have a "light metro" here in Toronto - it's been in service since 1985. But the implementation was so flawed as to damage the capability of it being used again here for decades - and possibly still decades to come.

It's so flawed that it was slated to be converted to an LRT, so what does that tell you?

Dan
 
smallspy said:
We have a "light metro" here in Toronto - it's been in service since 1985. But the implementation was so flawed as to damage the capability of it being used again here for decades - and possibly still decades to come.

It's so flawed that it was slated to be converted to an LRT, so what does that tell you?

Dan
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Yeah the Scarborough RT is light metro, I see how my post wasnt clear on that. I had meant modernizing it, not replacing it with light metro (which it already is!).

The issue was largely the implementation and then especially, the neglect. There's nothing wrong with light metro itself, whether it be with linear induction motors or just normal (but smaller) rail cars - though the LIM do struggle in the snow.
 
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