[W. K. Lis]

The Ontario Science Centre should not be touched.

Should be expanded towards the Line 5's Science Centre Station, replacing the parking lot.

 

[dowlingm]

Aside from the architectural arguments, it must be convenient for school and daycare groups to visit the current site over fighting through the crowded roads downtown, especially those in the outer parts of the city. Having created a kernel of cultural activity between the OSC, the Aga Khan Museum, the Japanese Cultural Centre, and a transit hub to go with them, why unpick that development in lieu of more residential units for which there are many other possible locations. But then, we will put a glass box and a massive parking structure on public waterfront, so who knows?

 

[James1256]

Toronto Hydro work on utility relocation seems to be in full swing just south of where the Ontario Line Science Center Station will be. According to their website, it should be complete by Jan 2024 (Not sure if that's for all of Ontario Line North, or just this section)

 

[UD2]

That parking lot is very important to visitors. Many are coming with small children in a car from the suburbs. If anything, they should expand the parking lot by making it a multilevel parkade.

Should be expanded towards the Line 5's Science Centre Station, replacing the parking lot.

 

[W. K. Lis]

That parking lot is very important to visitors. Many are coming with small children in a car from the suburbs. If anything, they should expand the parking lot by making it a multilevel parkade.

Instead of risking their lives driving in traffic, they could use Line 5's Science Centre station instead, or later the Ontario Line (possibility the new Line 3) with a Flemingdon Park Station. Children under 12 likely will still be be to use public transit in Toronto for free, in the near future.

More people could be going to the Ontario Science Centre with Line 5 AND the Ontario Line (Line 3), so there is less need for a parking lot for the storage of horseless carriages.

 

[Bayer]

This seems like a good place to say that even though I am 58 and have never owned a car (except for my mother's rust bucket that died within months), it is ableist to think that public transit and biking are universal alternatives to driving. Using a car allows many people to remain independent and avoid isolation longer as they age and lose stamina and mobility, and this is a growing concern. I would absolutely disagree with any large-scale removal of parking facilities.

 

[T3G]

Instead of risking their lives driving in traffic, they could use Line 5's Science Centre station instead, or later the Ontario Line (possibility the new Line 3) with a Flemingdon Park Station. Children under 12 likely will still be be to use public transit in Toronto for free, in the near future.

More people could be going to the Ontario Science Centre with Line 5 AND the Ontario Line (Line 3), so there is less need for a parking lot for the storage of horseless carriages.

The fact of the matter is, many people living out in the suburbs or beyond have very poor transit connections, and those problems are not likely to be dealt with in the span of a generation.

There is always going to be someone who has to drive. We should make transit good so that those who have the choice can use it, and leave it for those who can't. From my house, it is a 55 minute drive to the Science Centre, or 2 and a half hours by transit. The choice is a no brainer.

As for the news... are they not cutting this awfully fine? At this pace of work, is it actually realistic to hope for a 2031 opening?

 

[W. K. Lis]

The fact of the matter is, many people living out in the suburbs or beyond have very poor transit connections, and those problems are not likely to be dealt with in the span of a generation.

There is always going to be someone who has to drive. We should make transit good so that those who have the choice can use it, and leave it for those who can't. From my house, it is a 55 minute drive to the Science Centre, or 2 and a half hours by transit. The choice is a no brainer.

As for the news... are they not cutting this awfully fine? At this pace of work, is it actually realistic to hope for a 2031 opening?

North of the Science Centre is a CP rail line.

From link.

A good location for a Don Mills GO Train station for a GO Midtown line. See link.

 

[T3G]

There doesn't appear to be any urgency on anyone's part to make this happen anytime soon, so I'm not sure this is that significant to bring up.

If one day such a service actually sees the light of day, we can revisit the idea of abolishing parking lots here.

 

[W. K. Lis]

Too late.

A Zoning By-law Amendment application has been submitted to the City of Toronto for a site at 770 Don Mills Road on the southwest corner with Eglinton Avenue East. The land, owned by the City, is being shepherded through the City's Housing Now program by CreateTO to produce affordable housing units along with new market uints.

See link and link.

The 2.2-hectare site is bounded on the south by the Ontario Science Centre, and the Don Valley Ravine to the west. It is currently used as a surface parking lot for the major attraction, which will not need as much space once the Crosstown LRT's Science Centre station has opened in a year or so's time. As seen in the image above, an elevated portion of the Ontario Line is also planned to come to the intersection, targeted for a 2030 opening. The site, therefore, is seen as a node for intensification.

Among the new developments in the area, the Crosstown Community masterplan to the north of Eglinton is comprised of a series of proposed and under-construction multi-scaled mixed-use buildings and public spaces housing 10,000 new residents across the 60-acre development. To the southeast of Eglinton and Don Mills, recent high-rise developments such as the Sonic condominiums are contributing to a denser urban fabric in the area, while more adjacent proposals are anticipated shortly.

 

[dodgeram]

Too late.

A Zoning By-law Amendment application has been submitted to the City of Toronto for a site at 770 Don Mills Road on the southwest corner with Eglinton Avenue East. The land, owned by the City, is being shepherded through the City's Housing Now program by CreateTO to produce affordable housing units along with new market uints.

See link and link.

And nothing of value was lost. Great idea, get it built please.

 

[UD2]

Instead of risking their lives driving in traffic, they could use Line 5's Science Centre station instead, or later the Ontario Line (possibility the new Line 3) with a Flemingdon Park Station. Children under 12 likely will still be be to use public transit in Toronto for free, in the near future.

More people could be going to the Ontario Science Centre with Line 5 AND the Ontario Line (Line 3), so there is less need for a parking lot for the storage of horseless carriages.

Anyone may think this if they wish. People who would spend 2 hours each way on transit coming in from Markham would continue to drive their cars for 30 minutes if they had the choice.

It is always frustrating for those who doesn’t live in downtown to hear some entitled downtown residents say, “well why can’t you just take transit”. It is because they simply can’t. Their taxes went to fund your transit, so they didn’t get a subway like you did.

Also, it is called the Ontario Science Center. Not People Who Live South of Finch and not in Eastern Scarborough Science Center. Need to consider also someone might want to come in from places like Newmarket.

 

[ProjectEnd]

Anyone may think this if they wish. People who would spend 2 hours each way on transit coming in from Markham would continue to drive their cars for 30 minutes if they had the choice.

It is always frustrating for those who doesn’t live in downtown to hear some entitled downtown residents say, “well why can’t you just take transit”. It is because they simply can’t. Their taxes went to fund your transit, so they didn’t get a subway like you did.

Also, it is called the Ontario Science Center. Not People Who Live South of Finch and not in Eastern Scarborough Science Center. Need to consider also someone might want to come in from places like Newmarket.

Newmarket, eh?

 

[T3G]

Newmarket, eh?

Now how long will it take to backtrack?

 

[interchange42]

Everyone relax and loosen their bonnets a bit; there will still be parking at the Science Centre, plus there will be better transit access to it.

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