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borgo100
Active Member
so this is the final design?
DC83
Senior Member
What a joke this entire PanAm debacle has become!
The 2011 Games have come and gone w/o a single breath in any local Media.
The 2015 Games will be a giant fail (Athletics-wise), and McGuinty will finally succumb to his failure to follow through on any of his grandiose promises (unless he's toppled before then).
The 2011 Games have come and gone w/o a single breath in any local Media.
The 2015 Games will be a giant fail (Athletics-wise), and McGuinty will finally succumb to his failure to follow through on any of his grandiose promises (unless he's toppled before then).
yonderbean
Active Member
I hope not. Not diggin those purple and orange buildings.
borgo100
Active Member
^agreed
DSC
Superstar
There are now three Site Plan Approval applications in with the City for work on the Village (all with the address of 475 FRONT ST E - presumably a 'convenience address' that will eventually be sorted out.)
Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of mixed use building on Blocks 1/14 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. Proposal includes a 2 storey community sports facility, reuse of the existing non residential building ont he lands for retail purposes and a 9 storey, 257 unit, student residence. 91 parking spaces to serve the development, 85 of which would be located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 304643 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 3, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
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Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of a new 10 storey, 108 unit, affordable rental housing building on Block 3 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. 27 parking spaces to serve the development and located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 304650 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 3, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
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Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of a new 12 storey, 145 unit, affordable rental housing building complete with retail at grade and street front towhouse dwelling units on Block 15 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. 37 parking spaces to serve the development and located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 305223 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 4, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of mixed use building on Blocks 1/14 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. Proposal includes a 2 storey community sports facility, reuse of the existing non residential building ont he lands for retail purposes and a 9 storey, 257 unit, student residence. 91 parking spaces to serve the development, 85 of which would be located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 304643 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 3, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
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Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of a new 10 storey, 108 unit, affordable rental housing building on Block 3 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. 27 parking spaces to serve the development and located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 304650 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 3, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
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Site Plan Approval
Site plan approval application for development of a new 12 storey, 145 unit, affordable rental housing building complete with retail at grade and street front towhouse dwelling units on Block 15 of the West Don Lands - Phase 2. 37 parking spaces to serve the development and located below grade are to be provided on site .
Application Number 11 305223 STE 28 SA Application Status ---
Planner Name
Phone Number Inglis Baron, Heather
(416) 395-7073 Status Date ---
Community Meeting Date --- Date Received Nov 4, 2011
Proposed Non-Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential GFA (sq m) ---
Lot Size (sq m) ---
Proposed Residential Units ---
Proposed Storeys ---
Tewder
Senior Member
This and other new communities along the waterfront are being planned so thoughtfully and yet I can't get past the fact that no subway line has been included, the infamous east leg of the DRL for example. It just seems like a no-brainer that a line would be put down now before everything is built up, rather than wait for when it will be necessary to build anyway. Not very intelligent planning in the end.
yonderbean
Active Member
Remember the loose early concept drawing of the West Don Lands? (see it halfway down this page) I really liked the look of that curved streetwall, broken up into uniform facades. Has a dignified European midrise feel to it. The last thing I want here is more glass 'n spandrel and cantilever theatrics.
Torontovibe
Senior Member
I just hope they are going to have some restaurants and cafes facing the park, along with other retail. Let's not make the same mistake we made with Cityplace and the Fort York neighbourhood. It's a simple concept, yet many developers and the city, just don't realize how important retail is in animating a neighbourhood and creating a central meeting place.
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AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Those are really old renderings for illustrative purposes only.
Tewder:
It would be a no-brainer to hold this development up on an issue that have taken decades to reach the current state of non-decision; besides, the alignment for any DRL is far from settled - it would have been even less intelligent to do the wrong thing and be stuck with it, considering the price tag.
AoD
Tewder:
It would be a no-brainer to hold this development up on an issue that have taken decades to reach the current state of non-decision; besides, the alignment for any DRL is far from settled - it would have been even less intelligent to do the wrong thing and be stuck with it, considering the price tag.
AoD
Danielinthecity
Active Member
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Well even when developers provide retail space, they often don't provide APPROPRIATE retail space. As in, high ceilings, an airy feel, attractive and versatile signage, ideal space for patios, etc... I am sure they will do that here 
Here's an image of a model of the village I have saved from awhile ago.... if anyone has a larger version could they post it?
Here's an image of a model of the village I have saved from awhile ago.... if anyone has a larger version could they post it?
DSC
Superstar
There's a bit more info on WT site at: http://www.waterfrontoronto.ca/explore_projects2/west_don_lands/2015_pan_american_games
I assume they will be adding more soon - they are always a bit slow to get things up on their site.
I assume they will be adding more soon - they are always a bit slow to get things up on their site.
greenleaf
Senior Member
TrickyRicky
Senior Member
It will turn out fine for what it is and what it is is better than the nothing that exists there now.
Architects and designers cannot masterplan vibrant functioning neighbhourhoods. They just can't. It's not a matter of poor design or missing elements. The sooner you accept this the happier you will be. Fully designed master-planned communities only start functioning as real neighbourhoods the minute the first building in the materplan is torn down decades later. That act of beginning to tear down the orginal vision is the first step the neighbourhood can take to becoming a real functioning part of the city.
Architects and designers cannot masterplan vibrant functioning neighbhourhoods. They just can't. It's not a matter of poor design or missing elements. The sooner you accept this the happier you will be. Fully designed master-planned communities only start functioning as real neighbourhoods the minute the first building in the materplan is torn down decades later. That act of beginning to tear down the orginal vision is the first step the neighbourhood can take to becoming a real functioning part of the city.