my official guesstimates based off of a 180m office tower, and counting floors presuming them to be 3m tall:

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very nice, the towers appear taller though. the toronto start building is 100m. base on this render if you minus the ext added and just look at the 100m portion you will see the others are quite taller. the 70 story buildings seem at least 270m

based on the angle its hard to tell, the tower on the right looks shorter.
 
Post of the day Mike in TO. For anyone who works or lives near downtown get to as many community planning sessions as possible, I have seen the difference community input can make. It's important that comments from the community not only support height with a potential project such as this, but excellence in design and materials - and I'm only using this as an example. Every building whether it be condo, office, mixed use, apartment block, big box retailer, hotel etc. counts!
 
Okay, we'll that opinion is actually well reflected in the discussions that actually occur at those public consultations. But I'll point out that I and a couple (very few) other UT members actually attend these public consultations where opinions voiced actually matter and are on the public record impacting public policy and are a component of the democratic policy regime that shapes our urban environment. So I would challenge and encourage people to get up and out from beyond their computer and keyboard postings at UT to actually become engaged in the very public open and accessible planning process rather then simply posting on a message board and complaining about the state of Toronto affairs. Excuse my language, but rather than bitching and complaining about planning decisions on UT, you skyscraper fanatatics could actually show up to public meetings and put some skin in the game and voice you opinions to those that ultimately make decisions.

Exactly. Far too often only the dinosaurs that are against any kind of change show up at planning meetings. They are a vocal minority. I know we're all busy with our lives unlike the dinosaurs, but it's important to show up at these meetings and support quality development.

While we're not there just yet, I would like to see public consultations done online via a webinar or some other means. I've been involved in a few of these, and the feedback has been extremely positive. Toronto allows online submission of comments which is a start. Current technology allows for so much more.
 
I have certainly enjoyed the online consultations for the eglinton crosstown. Lets me, as a Durham resident, give input on something that will be an important part of my life in 8 years when it is finished and I (hopefully) am actually living in the city of toronto.
 
Okay, we'll that opinion is actually well reflected in the discussions that actually occur at those public consultations. But I'll point out that I and a couple (very few) other UT members actually attend these public consultations where opinions voiced actually matter and are on the public record impacting public policy and are a component of the democratic policy regime that shapes our urban environment. So I would challenge and encourage people to get up and out from beyond their computer and keyboard postings at UT to actually become engaged in the very public open and accessible planning process rather then simply posting on a message board and complaining about the state of Toronto affairs. Excuse my language, but rather than bitching and complaining about planning decisions on UT, you skyscraper fanatatics could actually show up to public meetings and put some skin in the game and voice you opinions to those that ultimately make decisions.

Definitly post of the day! No need to be excused for language Mike, we should be going to more meetings like this and getting involved, myself included. I am the first to say I have never been to one of these and I will definilty try to attend and voice my approval for proposals that really will benefit the city. You gotta play to have your say!

Speaking some realness!
Would also be nice if we could rate posts, I would give Mikes a thumbs up! (Also would give us an idea where the majority of people stand on other posts or ideas presented)
 
Okay, we'll that opinion is actually well reflected in the discussions that actually occur at those public consultations. But I'll point out that I and a couple (very few) other UT members actually attend these public consultations where opinions voiced actually matter and are on the public record impacting public policy and are a component of the democratic policy regime that shapes our urban environment. So I would challenge and encourage people to get up and out from beyond their computer and keyboard postings at UT to actually become engaged in the very public open and accessible planning process rather then simply posting on a message board and complaining about the state of Toronto affairs. Excuse my language, but rather than bitching and complaining about planning decisions on UT, you skyscraper fanatatics could actually show up to public meetings and put some skin in the game and voice you opinions to those that ultimately make decisions.

Hard for me to do, since I don't live in Toronto.
 
Not to bad mouth this project, which I think is okay... But for being located at such a prestigious Toronto address (1 YONGE Street), I expected something a bit more "iconic" and "unique" and "taller" for Toronto... at least two super-talls. Add in some spires, or crowns or something to make them really stand out not from just other downtown towers, but stand out in the Western Hemisphere.

This project is supposed to be the big "kahuna" for Toronto and who knows this may be our "peak" in this boom that we have been waiting for. They are big towers for that location and look good, but could be bigger and better IMO.
 
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Ummm... Am I missing something??? This looks like an M.C. Escher drawing. The line from the roof of the Toronto Star building would not intersect the tall building on the corner of Freeland and Lakeshore. It would transect the tallest of the four towers (Corner of Yonge and Lakeshore) somewhere in the lower half of the tower.

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Please god oh please god no green glass! 8 green glass towers by Pinnacle at essentially the same location would be brutal.
 
Ummm... Am I missing something??? This looks like an M.C. Escher drawing. The line from the roof of the Toronto Star building would not intersect the tall building on the corner of Freeland and Lakeshore. It would transect the tallest of the four towers (Corner of Yonge and Lakeshore) somewhere in the lower third of the tower.

That line is not originating from the Toronto Star building. It is originating from the upper right building, and has simply been extended a bit too far.

The other difficulty with this analysis is that this rendering is in Perspective, which makes comparing relative distances quite difficult, as opposed to most renderings, which tend to fix some of the axis.

The estimates seem reasonable, but I doubt that they are any more accurate than simply estimating total height based on floor count.
 
Please god oh please god no green glass! 8 green glass towers by Pinnacle at essentially the same location would be brutal.

LOL, so true.
If we look at the skyline from the waterfront, it is a sea of greenness, especially west of Bay. Why do we like green glass so much?
I don't want any green here, not blue for what matter.
 
some scary density here! and we thought the Theatre Block proposal was crazy!
Interesting proposals being brought forth and very dubai-esque (dancing towers). Although I find it a bit awkward how the designs of the towers neither mimic nor contrast eachother. the 300+m tower feels the weakest of the 3 and most out of place. but either way, these are going head to head with Mississauga's Absolute.
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That line is confusing, I should have removed it. I started it from the start of the second tallest building to compare its height with the shorter towers, and is not meant to make a connection at all with the Toronto Star building.
 
Balenciaga really seems to have a bias that blinds him to reality. We are a city of less than 6 million - almost half the size of Chicago and more than 4 times smaller than New York. So, yes the boom here - in relative terms - is very significant. Is it significant in total terms compared to cities like Mumbai (16 million +) and Shanghai (20 million +)?

It is not accurate to say that we are half the size of Chicago' when the Chicago metropolitan area (Chicagoland) is 10,856 sq mi (28,120 km). The GTA is a quarter the size of Chicagoland in land mass - 2,750.65 sq mi (7,124.15 km). If the GTA had a similar sized set of geographical boundaries as Chicagoland, what do people here think its population would be?

PS. I lived in Chicago for close to 2 years from 2007 - 2009. Despite it being 'less beautiful' than Chicago, I find Toronto to be a far more vibrant and cosmopolitan city than Chicago. And I am a real urbanist....Once you leave the immediate core of Chicago, it is far less appealing than its touristy core....

Lark
 
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... But for being located at such a prestigious Toronto address (1 YONGE Street), I expected something a bit more "iconic" and "unique" and "taller" for Toronto... at least two super-talls. Add in some spires, or crowns or something to make them really stand out not from just other downtown towers, but stand out in the Western Hemisphere.
This project is supposed to be the big "kahuna" for Toronto .

Hmm, this will never be 1 Yonge street, for the last 40 yrs. that address has been assigned to the Toronto Star bldg. which isnt going anywhere, this is more like 7 Yonge, still prestigious but i dont know about all the spires and crowns.

Why not next door for "The Big Kahuna" .....rumour has it, that the LCBO lands is being baited for the new Toronto Casino, where there is more than enough room to build something "iconic", "unique" and "taller" with "all the bells and whistles".
 

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