QQ is absolute clutter. When it first re-opened, people complained that they didn't know where to go and they needed more signage. Now we've got more signage ...
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k10ery
Senior Member
But not too short to say life is too short for this?
AlvinofDiaspar
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Skeezix
Senior Member
For good discussion about important issues, no. You should try it sometime.
W. K. Lis
Superstar
TheTigerMaster
Superstar
How Queen's Quay should have been designed from the beginning:
cplchanb
Senior Member
Is that allowed in the code/bylaws to have no sidewalk curb like that?
the lemur
Senior Member
I don't think so, but the curbs are already pretty low and there are sections that have bollards (such as near Lower Spadina) except more widely spaced. I'm not sure what the bridge in the photo has that's better than the setup on QQ.
Tuscani01
Senior Member
A yellow line, clearly.
drum118
Superstar
Since the EMS and the fire department can't use the ROW and the ramp in the first place, time to go back to Square One and put in the grass that was supposed to be these in the first place.
These changes by TTC will still see clueless drives in the tunnel and the fine doesn't cover the real cost to remove the car in the first place.
TTC makes it harder for drivers to enter the Queens Quay streetcar tunnel
These changes by TTC will still see clueless drives in the tunnel and the fine doesn't cover the real cost to remove the car in the first place.
TTC makes it harder for drivers to enter the Queens Quay streetcar tunnel
MetroMan
Senior Member
I agree. The street was designed with important visual cues in mind. You can't just take away key parts of the plan and not expect the design to break. The grass was put there in the original design to prevent drivers from mistaking it for a road. By removing the grass, the ROW became nearly indistinguishable from a road, specially in a city where we drive on streetcar tracks on King, Queen, Dundas and College.
EastYorkTTCFan
Senior Member
I wonder why they haven't just put grass or even have open tracks from the last intersection to the tunnel entrance that would send a message that hey I don't belong here maybe I should stop a lot sooner then where it is now.
robmausser
Senior Member
They put rumble strips but I think they should put spikes.
You try to drive down the tunnel, you get 4 flat tires.
AlvinofDiaspar
Moderator
Or a series of rollers set into the ground that would make driving further in difficult, if not impossible.
AoD
drum118
Superstar
As for the grass, got to thank the ones who got their way not allowing it, which piss off not only Waterfront Toronto, but everyone who work on this project including me. As for opening the tracks up, been calling for this from day one for the ramp area. This new TTC fix not going to work.