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Wilfred Yung
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Is demolition confirmed to start this month? Can't wait till shovels hit the ground on this 
hw621
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hw621
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Demolition is almost half way...
drum118
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Feb 03
Demolition is done, but still cleaning up to be done. Too much snow in the way to get more shots.
Demolition is done, but still cleaning up to be done. Too much snow in the way to get more shots.
AlbertC
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There's a recent thread for this posted a couple months ago on Reddit. This following comment appears to provide the most insight:
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jje1000
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Not sure if this counts as an actual update, but some rumours floating around?
I don't doubt that given shifting market demands and the changing context (decline of Pacific Mall, new GO Station), that the retail component would be decreased and replaced with condos if this project is still able to get off the ground. Overall, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is stale, if not dead.
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Perhaps the idea for Remington Centre came just too late? Interestingly enough, I think that the future remains in strip malls (plenty of new ones being built), and upscale 'ethnic' sections in major malls (like at Fairview Mall's new T&T wing).
I don't doubt that given shifting market demands and the changing context (decline of Pacific Mall, new GO Station), that the retail component would be decreased and replaced with condos if this project is still able to get off the ground. Overall, I think it's safe to say that this proposal is stale, if not dead.
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Perhaps the idea for Remington Centre came just too late? Interestingly enough, I think that the future remains in strip malls (plenty of new ones being built), and upscale 'ethnic' sections in major malls (like at Fairview Mall's new T&T wing).
AlvinofDiaspar
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There are simply too many of them for the market to support - if store duplication is already a problem at Pacific Mall and First Markham Place (think of the umpteen stores selling traditional Chinese medicine, cellphones/accessories and whatnot) - why do they think there is market for even more of it? Something like Fairview Mall (an Asian tinted mainstream mall) would work, but CF Markview is just down the street and it already straddled that hybrid market.
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AlbertC
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I find that the demolition of the former Market Village mall has contributed to a decline in Pacific Mall as well. As Market Village featured important staple retail like 2 grocery stores, a few larger format restaurants, and a fairly popular food court. With the shift of shopping trends, P-mall alone doesn't have the draw as it used to have a decade or so ago.
AlvinofDiaspar
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Yep - I would say grocery stores are probably the most important anchor for Chinese malls - because the rest of the offerings are frankly non-essentials. And P-mall sucks as a shopping experience anyways.
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yrt+viva=1system
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I wouldn’t be too surprised if this was true regarding the infrastructure. The original Market Village used to be a Garden Centre and a Country/Farm marketplace, which didn’t necessitate deep infrastructure. I still remember visiting in its original form.
jje1000
Senior Member
Agreed with this point, the two malls were often a two-for-one draw for trips. As the area has developed, many new strip malls have popped up in the former industrial zone running down Midland to Finch, so there is also less of a draw to the mall.
I think that Pacific Mall will be gone in a decade or so as well barring any significant renovations that seek to revitalise it; the cubical-style condo retail format has aged fairly poorly, along with the general shopping experience. Ironically, I think that the second floor is seemingly doing better largely because of its introverted, larger-scale format and more varied attractions.
ProjectEnd
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I do wonder what the impact something like Fairview's recent shift will have on / for this demographic.
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How this Toronto mall is transforming a former Sears into an East Asian food destination
T&T Supermarket, three new bubble tea shops, two Chinese bakeries, a hand-pulled noodle place — Fairview Mall is leaning into feeding its shoppers.
wilsonwx2
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Heyoo, that Google review is me, I got that info from a bunch of local online Chinese news anchors, and the news all originated from locals and people who bought the condos earlier but got refunded without interest. Pacific mall also earlier released a document about how the project was delayed continuously. Pmall also sent out letters to store owners about how the developers abandoned the plan to construct the mall and applied for changing the land use, adding both Pmall and the other building next door to residential zoning, that they planned to construct high rise bulidings.