MapleLeafs
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Call me crazy, but I don't like it. Maybe it just doesn't fit my tastes, but it seems overkill given the location.
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Call me crazy, but I don't like it. Maybe it just doesn't fit my tastes, but it seems overkill given the location.
Will this be the final nail in the coffin for Yonge Street from Dundas to Gerrard when this and Aura are up?
God, I hope so.
A sterilized Yonge Street, not for me.
hmm, the way it meets Yonge just doesn't work, plain and simple - are they honestly planning a blank wall for most of the site ?
There's no frontage for the retail on Yonge ? Forget apple, forget anything - think of the basement of the AMC building..
I've been struggling with it too. I truly love the design but it's so radical for Yonge Street that it almost seems unwelcome. I also fear for everything that surrounds it once this goes up. Will this be the final nail in the coffin for Yonge Street from Dundas to Gerrard when this and Aura are up?
Hi dt.I've been struggling with it too. I truly love the design but it's so radical for Yonge Street that it almost seems unwelcome. I also fear for everything that surrounds it once this goes up. Will this be the final nail in the coffin for Yonge Street from Dundas to Gerrard when this and Aura are up?
Keeping mind the Zanzibar, I hope that the entertainment won't be grungy either.Moving forward, there is a lot that must go right in the continuing (re)development of Yonge north of Dundas (to Tewder's point). Repeating myself, I hope that entertainment, and not grungy retail, will be the main attraction.
Some other street/area will likely pick up where Yonge left off.
^You must have pretty high standards if you think that Queen West is shabby. A house on Beaconsfield costs $750k and Queen street is lined with things like Simon Carter and a Fred Perry outlet. It's "shabby" the way that SoHo or the East Village is shabby in New York, which is to say "shabby chic".
Of course, if dog grooming spas and places where private school kids troll around and make a nuisance of themselves is more your thing, there's a lot of Toronto that looks like that too: about 6 kilometers worth of Yonge street extending north from Rosedale, for starters, and then Yorkville, Bayview through Leaside, etc.
Hi dt.
It is a time of change (again) for Toronto, and I say this most respectfully: I believe that in this issue, the train has left the station. Aura, and this Ryerson development are ultimately going to be the change catalysts on this section of Yonge.
I did a lot of serious thinking about the lack of retail in the Ryerson project; my thinking this morning is that it is not harmful to have this short stretch lacking a retail face. The long and dull exterior of Eaton Centre to the south, now that is an issue. And frankly major retailers are cool to the idea of locating outside of Eaton Centre ...
Moving forward, there is a lot that must go right in the continuing (re)development of Yonge north of Dundas (to Tewder's point). Repeating myself, I hope that entertainment, and not grungy retail, will be the main attraction. If the city administration would only get interested (ha!). It would be super to have a variety of restaurants and pubs, instead of dollar stores and crappy electronic / jewellry / souvenir stores. I think this section of Yonge is a bad stretch -- but the reinvention of it has to be well thought out.
While I'm here, it is my dearest wish that a new developer take over 10 Dundas East and turn it into a worthwhile place. I am also fairly disgusted with the use (abuse?) of Dundas Sq. and I wish the people who run the place would just come to their senses, it is totally dreadful. Maybe the Ryerson thing will pull things in a different direction ??? Maybe it will influence some thinking ... let's hope so.
More than anything else I am focusing on the positive. Magically the new SLC lends the structure immediately to the east some context. The two massings, smushed up against one another, really work, architecturally. I can't believe it, it's still too good to be true.