[Paclo]

Application Details

www.toronto.ca

Saint Elizabeth Catholic School Replacement: a proposed 3-storey school & child care centre designed by CS&P Architects for the Toronto Catholic District School Board on the southwest corner of Redcar Avenue and The East Mall, east of Highway 427 in Toronto's Eatonville neighbourhood.

 

[ben.thebean1]

This school is located immediately adjacent to the Cloverdale Mall property so it's very clear why we're seeing this great proposal. Looks like 19 standard classrooms plus 5 kindergarten classrooms. 60 below-grade parking spaces and 4 short-term at-grade spaces. Also want to point out the U-shaped design with the gym in the middle, which has a third floor outdoor play area on the roof of the gym in the middle of the U-shaped third floor.

Here is the third floor:

 

[Tim MacDonald]

Two photos from my collection - July 4th, 2023

 

[junctionist]

Almost no surface parking is impressive. But are 60 below-grade spaces really necessary for a neighbourhood elementary school?

 

[ben.thebean1]

Almost no surface parking is impressive. But are 60 below-grade spaces really necessary for a neighbourhood elementary school?

Well, a school with 24 classrooms plus a childcare centre likely has around 40-45 staff there during the day, which most if not all will have their own car. Add parent volunteers and other visitors who might require parking and 60 is pretty appropriate I think.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

The freeway of screaming cars just east of this doesn't suggest anything neighbourhood though... >.<

Edit/Erratum: The freeway of screaming cars just west* of this...proper.

 

[Edward Skira]

The freeway of screaming cars just east of this doesn't suggest anything neighbourhood though... >.<

The freeway is on the west side. The east side is full out suburban and very much a neighbourhood. And with Valhalla to the north and the new Cloverdale towers to the south there certainly will be a need for this.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

The freeway is on the west side. The east side is full out suburban and very much a neighbourhood. And with Valhalla to the north and the new Cloverdale towers to the south there certainly will be a need for this.

Er..just corrected that. My apologies...and how embarrassing. >.<

 

[Tim MacDonald]

For @UtakataNoAnnex this shot, from January 2022 gives some perspective of the area to the east of the school. Saint Elizabeth is just out of frame in the lower right. You're looking east on Bloor with the East Mall running from left to right. The new Valhalla project is just out of frame in the lower left. I'm sure I have other shots of the area but this was the one I could find from my collection.

 

[UtakataNoAnnex]

...so /ignore that screaming freeway to said west and we get a sea of treed single house units to the east...so therefore, neighbourhood. And I sit corrected then.

 

[junctionist]

Well, a school with 24 classrooms plus a childcare centre likely has around 40-45 staff there during the day, which most if not all will have their own car. Add parent volunteers and other visitors who might require parking and 60 is pretty appropriate I think.

So we should encourage everyone to drive to work by subsidizing their parking? There’s an excellent bus route that passes by this school. A spot for everyone is regressive planning and a waste of money.

 

[ben.thebean1]

So we should encourage everyone to drive to work by subsidizing their parking? There’s an excellent bus route that passes by this school. A spot for everyone is regressive planning and a waste of money.

I'm not disagreeing with you, but many teachers live a very long way from where they work. In my experience, only around a third of teachers at my schools actually lived in the district they work in, most are commuting long distances where transit just isn't feasible with current infrastructure sadly

 

[Tim MacDonald]

October 18th 2024

 

[rdaner]

Great to see this! Still unsure if expensive parking is a wise use of scarce dollars?! Also it will be interesting to see how the rapidly evolving community can use this new facility for community benefit.