bjl
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....that's just sad.
Honestly, I'm becoming inclined to believe Dentrobate is a troll, and he sits there laughing in his little spinny chair every time one of us takes the bait. That's the only way I can justify statements like the one you replied to existing.Do you just make this stuff up as you go?
Honestly, I'm becoming inclined to believe Dentrobate is a troll, and he sits there laughing in his little spinny chair every time one of us takes the bait. That's the only way I can justify statements like the one you replied to existing.
Because seriously, "electricity generating snow melting heat"? I guess that's why there's never any problems on above ground subway lines with much more snow-friendly technology than the RT. Wait, what's that? Electricity doesn't melt the snow on these sections, leading to delays? Why I never!
Heat+ friction cause molecules to move i.e. melt. It's grade 9 physics. Maybe instead of idiotizing everyhting I say, maybe consider others point-of-views might be the right one and not your's all the time.
In contrast, what Transit City is offering most closely resembles the Queensway ROW between Roncesvalles and Humber Loop. Light rail-only lanes with raised trackbeds to prevent cars from getting on. Stops spaced every 450m as opposed to every 200m allocated by the existing system. Several sections along every proposed line would have underground sections, further enhancing speed.
But now where's the comparison really differs. Let's take 512 St Clair for instance. It takes over an hour to get from Gunns Loop to St Clair Stn. following the 8 stops to a concession rule. Then consider Finch West, which organically has density clusters at major cross intersections and wide margins of residential sprawl in between. The TC line along there, only stopping 4 times a concession (or major/minor/major/minor) would instead of to Keele within an hour, the Finch West would probably reach all the way to Humber College and be resting for the trip back by then.
See its simple semantics. You say LRT=streetcar in the vein of the 501. I say better than a subway for a corridor (Finch West) not ready for a subway but deserving of more than a regular service local-stopping bus. That's not to say the 36 becomes obcelete, it means for someone living in Rexdale boarding at Finch Stn that they didn't just waste 2+ hours of their life awaiting their stop for the sake of a zillion minor stops en route. It's all a give and take.
Those who purport the urban myth that is Transfer City feciciously do. How arbitrary a number is 3kms for a Bloor-Danforth extension to Scarbourough Centre, 2kms for YUS to Yonge/Steeles and another 5kms to York U? The rest of the city doesn't benefit from that alone.
However if for the fraction of the cost we implement city-wide BRT/LRT infrastructure and construct minimalist subways (pre-metros from the airport to Markham Rd and within the downtown core from the Beaches to Humber Loop) then in fact we'll be benefiting any or all of 2.5 million people, not just 20,000 for the VCC extension and 40,000 for a BD to STC assist.
^ However if Bomber can build new ICTS cars to replace the dying ones, as Unimaginative claims, then there'd be no need to dismantle the RT line. The tracks are electrified and naturally generate snow-melting heat. If excessive snow hasn't stopped, granted impeded but not halted service on YUS/BD's outdoor sections I'm sure we can figure a way to overcome this slight on the SRT without a costly subway extension that won't even serve any new unchartered territories.
This grassroots motley crew of petitioners
they grin and bare it or at least I do.
I know, Dentrobate, and I agree with you. More limited stops would be a great idea. Dear lord. Yes, I know, I don't know why I take the bait. It's just...so...addictive. That, and I hope other people get something useful out of it. Dentrobate. Nobody is talking about replacing Transit City with those three subway lines. All three are already funded (Scarborough in the form of an RT renovation and useless extension) in addition to Transit City.
What the streetcar fanatics don't understand is that you can "benefit" from a line without living within a few hundred yards of a stop. Someone at Lawrence and Vic Park would benefit from a subway on Don Mills, because it means a short hop on the bus and a very fast and direct subway ride downtown.
Conversely, people don't benefit from a station at their doorstep if it doesn't take them anywhere they want to go or takes forever to get there.
Dentrobate, there's nothing wrong with being opinionated, but it helps when your opinions are backed up with some knowledge. By The Bomber, I meant Bombardier, just to clarify, and replacing the ICTS cars is exactly what the TTC is doing. Doing so, and uselessly extending the line to Markham and Sheppard, would cost the same amount as eliminating the RT and replacing it with a subway.
The "grassroots motley crew" was led by every single Scarborough councillor. I think you should take another peek at "grassroots" in your dictionary.
Damn! This is the kind of extreme reaction that bad service in Scarborough can produce! Maybe Dentrobate's exhibitionism is what's driving so many people off the RT!
Heat + Friction = Molecules Move? Is that Dentrobate54's law? What units are you using. I have never seen heat added to friction. I also don't see how you have proven that electrified rail melts snow because you haven't shown that electrified rail causes heat.
Coming to school however SRT's almost inavoidable to ride, so given that nothing gets me to the 38 bus faster than 8 mins, I endure. Now I could be selfish and say convert the SRT as I would get there even faster.
However realizing that 000s more than myself are in need in the northeast quadrant, I can sacrifice nepotism and do what's in the best interest of the greatest number.
What the streetcar fanatics don't understand is that you can "benefit" from a line without living within a few hundred yards of a stop.
Yes, Ed, but that was 100 years ago and those kind of balls don't exist any more. Except maybe for a road.If they can build the Bloor Viaduct they certainly can build a bridge over the Don at Sheppard.
LRTs doesn't mean they will totally run on the streets, you have ignored the fact it could be run like subways e.g. Calgary and Edmonton LRTs. TTC just need a larger type of streetcars run those LRT lines.
bjl was masquerading as another poster
Wow, this must be "Bash the Dentrobate Week"
Obviously I wasn't being serious,