[christiesplits]

http://ca.news.yahoo.com/blogs/dailybrew/could-backlash-against-donald-trump-hurt-toronto-hotel-153010524.html

Could a backlash against Donald Trump hurt his new Toronto hotel?

Playing politics may turn out to be not that great for Donald Trump's business.

The real estate baron's pursuit of the Republican presidential nomination has led to a call for a boycott over his opposition to same sex-marriage, and accusations of racism, despite the overriding assumption the run is mostly an ill-conceived publicity stunt.

And, it has all come just in time for the grand opening of Trump's entry into Canada.

Construction of the Trump International Hotel & Tower at the corner of Bay and Adelaide streets in downtown Toronto, has reached the stage where its first overnight guests have booked for June.

The residential component of the 59-storey skyscraper, which will incorporate the highest condominiums in the country, is slated for completion later this year. Alex Shnaider, the billionaire owner of one of the penthouse suites, received his occupancy permit last month.

With hopes of renting out 261 luxury hotel rooms each night, however, a backlash doesn't seem like something the Trump Toronto can afford.

The Gay and Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation has launched the "Tune Out Trump" campaign geared to draw attention to the candidate's stance against marriage equality, which prompted Rosie O'Donnell to cancel her stay at his hotel in Chicago.

Celebrity critics have also condemned Trump as racist for furthering the view Barack Obama wasn't born in the U.S. The president's release of his birth certificate on Wednesday was regarded as a signal the "birther movement" baiting crossed a line.

The tactics could further tarnish the mogul's reputation in Canada, where the blowhard Republican act can only be regarded as a freak show, even if columnist Peter Worthington of the Toronto Sun has stepped up to assert Trump can't be taken seriously.

Nonetheless, the candidate has maintained he expects to be.

When it comes to promoting the Toronto venture, The Donald can deflect criticism by leaving the publicity to daughter Ivanka, who visited the construction site last summer.

But a ribbon-cutting appearance may be delayed due to the birth of her first child right around the time Trump Toronto checks in its first guest.

 

[steveve]

okay, so we won't see donald at the opening, but ivanka... seems fair,

 

[Redroom Studios]

I'm just wondering if there is going to be a prize for the 1 millionth viewer on this thread? maybe a pair of Trump cuff links?

 

[junctionist]

I still don't get all of the '80s references in this thread. I just don't see it. Can someone give some examples of 1980's skyscraper architecture that Trump would appear to mimic or resemble?

It's more about the Postmodern design details which are quite '80s and also '90s. The multiple distinct facades which blend into each other, in this case one granite and one glass, was a very common design detail back then. A great example is the Canadian Broadcasting Centre. All the setbacks also demonstrate the 1980s affinity for Art Deco skyscrapers, albeit with some lessons carried over from the International Style like glass curtain wall minimalism. Spires were also the norm back then, and the quarter-onion is a somewhat original take on the PoMo spire, which was typically pyramidal.

One common '80s feature missing is a massive atrium, but the site seems too compact for one of those.

 

[Patriot]

Anyone have a construction update on this building? i.e. floor count, expected completion date, dome installation timing, etc.

 

[steveve]

Anyone have a construction update on this building? i.e. floor count, expected completion date, dome installation timing, etc.

my guess is they're on the 55th level now, which is strange considering this thing is set to be 59 floors... 4 more floors to go won't bring it THAT much higher than Bay adelaide's roof (since they're at the same height right now), though mechanical/onion dome will bring it up higher.

Here's a pic from Trump Toronto's facebook.
A view from a hotel suite.... nice......
http://www.facebook.com/photo.php?f...64723019.23844.110447845655338&type=1&theater

 

[wopchop]

Anyone have a construction update on this building? i.e. floor count, expected completion date, dome installation timing, etc.

L53 is complete. L54 is formed, but has not been poured due to the heavy rains this week.

 

[vegeta_skyline]

So they're working on 54 now, thanks for the update.

4 more floors to go won't bring it THAT much higher than Bay adelaide's roof (since they're at the same height right now), though mechanical/onion dome will bring it up higher.

Yup it won't be much higher than BA. BA is 716ft and Trump's rooftop is going to be 776ft. That 60ft difference is the 5 floors they've got left, since its more or less even with BA right now.

 

[steveve]

Yup it won't be much higher than BA. BA is 716ft and Trump's rooftop is going to be 776ft. That 60ft difference is the 5 floors they've got left, since its more or less even with BA right now.

right, i think that 60ft difference includes the mechanical box (the one containing the "TRUMP" logo), and the top 4 floors should be really tall (super penthouses)

 

[vegeta_skyline]

Ok, so I went back a couple pages to the diagram wopchop posted and according to that Trump will really only be 58 floors unless the 59 is not shown there since there is nothing indicating that level. Meaning theres only 4 more floors to go including the mechanical level. The base elevation for the super penthouses top floor/L57 is I believe 227.185m/745.4ft (hard to make out the number) and the base elevation for the mechanical penthouse is 231.845m/760.7ft. Meaning the top floor of the penthouse should be about 14ft tall!

 

[steveve]

you know those toronto city documents that go with projects that show elevation drawings, etc... did Trump toronto ever have one of those? i've seen them for projects like ICE, 18 york, etc.. on the internet somewhere. if someone has the link to the documents (if they even exist), it would be great... i thought that every project in the city needs on of those.

 

[wopchop]

Not exactly true. There is technically a L59 ... it's just completely exposed to the elements

You also have to be careful when talking about any of these upper floors, as the building starts to step back in multiple locations at L54, and some of these "floors" are quite small.

 

[steveve]

Not exactly true. There is technically a L59 ... it's just completely exposed to the elements

You also have to be careful when talking about any of these upper floors, as the building starts to step back in multiple locations at L54, and some of these "floors" are quite small.

is level 59 the floor/thing that has the "TRUMP" logo on it?

And thanks for that info... level 54: THINGS ARE GOING DOWN! (or up in this case). gonna be real exciting seeing the setbacks occurring, all leading up to the onion dome + spire!

 

[wopchop]

is level 59 the floor/thing that has the "TRUMP" logo on it?

If you look back at the picture that I posted, if you were on L58, you would be at basically the same elevation as the TRUMP logo on the exterior. L59 would be the roof of that level. It's not labeled as a level, because I suppose it kind of isn't, but it's still extra elevation, and shouldn't be discounted. I call it L59 just for ease of reference.

 

[steveve]

If you look back at the picture that I posted, if you were on L58, you would be at basically the same elevation as the TRUMP logo on the exterior. L59 would be the roof of that level. It's not labeled as a level, because I suppose it kind of isn't, but it's still extra elevation, and shouldn't be discounted. I call it L59 just for ease of reference.

okay,
So level 57 is the top floor of the super-penthouse,
Level 58 is the TRUMP logo area (i guess mechanical?)
and Level 59 is basically as high as you can go on the building (rooftop i guess... the area behind the dome

any idea what the super penthouse floors will be clad in? (is it the same glass or granite of some sort)