PL1
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No signs of pickleball courts as yet! Just a lot of asphalt and a pile of dirt which is now sprouting some grass. And a bin.
This sign is new
This sign is new
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PL1
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Pristine thin layer of snow. The only recent change is the fence they put up around that mound of dirt at the east end of the property.
Northern Light
Superstar
GM, and Merry Christmas all............ since the pancake batter is made, but nobody else is up yet, LOL, here's your present UT.
A resubmission here.
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For some reason, the renders are all Black and White, I double checked, the Arch. Firm's name has not changed to Turner, Fleischer and Clewes.
We're now at 3 towers, 43s, 37s and 32s
Site Plan:
Ground Floor Plan:
The elevation drawings do suggest some actual colour remains:
Parking Ratio: 419 resident spaces, 1,201 units or 0.35 * (50 additional spaces have been secured for residents here in an adjacent condo (off site) which raises the number to 0.39
Elevator Ratio: (across all 3 buildings) 11 elevators, 1,201 residential units, or 1 elevator per 109 unis
@HousingNowTO will wish to know that Concert has not proposed any affordable housing here, but is prepared to discuss such as a Community Benefit.
A resubmission here.
@Paclo
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www.toronto.ca
For some reason, the renders are all Black and White, I double checked, the Arch. Firm's name has not changed to Turner, Fleischer and Clewes.
We're now at 3 towers, 43s, 37s and 32s
Site Plan:
Ground Floor Plan:
The elevation drawings do suggest some actual colour remains:
Parking Ratio: 419 resident spaces, 1,201 units or 0.35 * (50 additional spaces have been secured for residents here in an adjacent condo (off site) which raises the number to 0.39
Elevator Ratio: (across all 3 buildings) 11 elevators, 1,201 residential units, or 1 elevator per 109 unis
@HousingNowTO will wish to know that Concert has not proposed any affordable housing here, but is prepared to discuss such as a Community Benefit.
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Undead
Senior Member
Parking ratio is 0.39 when including the off site spots. Seems a bit high for a site right next to the station.
Northern Light
Superstar
I agree.
Though, I think if you look at the average unit sizes and the mix, it skews a bit larger than typical, which may suggest a more affluent target resident, and more couples/families.
GenerationLee
Senior Member
Hmm, interesting. A few years ago I'd have been opposed to the height/density of this as being too much, but I'm fine with it now. Anyways, this is a more sensical proposal considering the MTSA here, even if the unit mix here is a little lacklustre. I'm not a huge fan of the city requirement for road easements, or the curb corner, considering how central this intersection is and busy it will be in a few years.
Although I don't mind seeing Bessborough Parkette expanded (even if there's not much accomplished in doing that), I would prefer to see more acquisitions around Howard Talbot Park, mostly toward the east, off Hanna.
Although I don't mind seeing Bessborough Parkette expanded (even if there's not much accomplished in doing that), I would prefer to see more acquisitions around Howard Talbot Park, mostly toward the east, off Hanna.
maestro
Senior Member
It's still way too much but everything in Toronto is too much which probably explains the acceptance of the upper echelons of residential densities far from the amenity rich core. The only rationale for a trio of 30 to 40 storey towers here (up from 16 and 12 storey high rises ) is the lrt station which has become synonymous with a combined town and culture heart than the piece of infrastructure it is.
The question of parking comes up like mass density makes the neighbourhood a walkable mixed use ecosystem and "Crosstown" with housing vertical subdivisions planned for at least a million around its combined stations will easily absorb the ridership. However, I see logic in cutting off more parking supply entirely regardless of beneficial convenience as the city has settled on bikes being the future private mode and peak vehicular capacities are declining to provide the necessary bike infrastructure. I'm not sold the bike experiment will pay out as it has for the two common European comparables as Toronto isn't comparable at all in its land use or, is it heading in the right direction. It's the choice made. Fewer parking spots should lead to fewer cars.
There's also the $100 million Canadians by 2100 and for the GTA to achieve its quota of 35 million people than tower developments like this become essential and better planned now than later
The question of parking comes up like mass density makes the neighbourhood a walkable mixed use ecosystem and "Crosstown" with housing vertical subdivisions planned for at least a million around its combined stations will easily absorb the ridership. However, I see logic in cutting off more parking supply entirely regardless of beneficial convenience as the city has settled on bikes being the future private mode and peak vehicular capacities are declining to provide the necessary bike infrastructure. I'm not sold the bike experiment will pay out as it has for the two common European comparables as Toronto isn't comparable at all in its land use or, is it heading in the right direction. It's the choice made. Fewer parking spots should lead to fewer cars.
There's also the $100 million Canadians by 2100 and for the GTA to achieve its quota of 35 million people than tower developments like this become essential and better planned now than later
Northern Light
Superstar
I agree the density ask here is excessive.......but on the walkability of the area, I think I'll differ.
1) There is a Metro supermarket literally across the street, and a Whole Foods only 2 blocks north, and a vibrant, walkable retail strip on Bayview that begins about 2 blocks south and features a smaller independent supermarket, a large butcher, a high end patisserie, bakeries, many restos etc.
2) There is a large park across the street and a small one immediately abutting the site.
3) The High school is adjacent to the park across the street and its principle entrance roughly 2 blocks and change away.
Even the nearest Recreation Centre and Library are at or slightly less than 1km away.
Sure, the streetscapes could be a bit nicer, and there's need for some additional/improved cycling facilities.......... but that really isn't 1/2 bad.
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Midtown Urbanist
Superstar
Well that's certainly a Christmas surprise.
AHK
Senior Member
I believe that a major part of the market for units in these buildings will be older residents in the adjoining communities. Given the neighbourhood demographics, there would be a numbe r of residents looking to downsize out of their long-owned single family homes. As such they would be used to having a car, may at this stage of their lives be looking at some mobility issues - walking everywhere is not a practical option, especially when carrying things, and they would have the funds to afford operating a car. Lack of parking could be a major impediment in these cases.
Undead
Senior Member
This is high octane insanity if anyone ever even remotely tries this.
Northern Light
Superstar
It is......
That would require roughly 1.2% annualized growth, and we would reach ~100M in 2100
For comparison's sake, prior to the recent explosive growth in foreign students / TFWs and somewhat higher regular stream as well...... Canada grew at about 0.7% per annum from the 90s
We still fell behind in housing even at that lower level, I should add........but not as acutely as the last few years.
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Last year Canada grew at 2.9%
paperman
New Member
Fertility rates are currently collapsing at an unprecedented rate around the world. Our largest immigration sources India, China, and the Philippines are at below replacement level fertility now. Soon Africa will be the only place in the world with above replacement fertility. In the world of population collapse there won't be enough people to immigrate here.
Northern Light
Superstar
I would be more than content to see the world's population cut in 1/2; (no Thanos'esque events, just attrition).
That said, lets not get this thread any further offtrack....
In the politics sections we have threads to examine/critique Canadian policy makers and global ones too, and whatever ones take we can debate those issues over there, rather than here.